There is an argument to be made for empiricism over structure.
Recalling Justice Potter Stewart's remark in the 1964 Jacobellis v. Ohio
Supreme Court ruling limiting censorship, "I know it when I see it.", I
think that it is not an extraordinary abuse of power for the list owner to
decide without written policy what is and is not off topic.
After all, perhaps Allaire is counting on the aliens to bring critical
elements of Pharoah with them...
At 01:37 PM 12/1/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>I'd like to avoid having a moderated list as much as possible. I'll give you
>my criteria for banning a thread:
>1. It is totally OT AND is detrimental to the community (the gore thread
>started people fighting.)
>2. I ask that the thread stop and it continues (I asked in the morning for
>it to stop and at least 10 additional posts went on)
>I know that these sound like simple criteria, but the amount of threads that
>fall into it over the years has been less than a dozen or so. I'm holding
>moderation of a thread off as an 'ultimate weapon' to only be used in the
>most extreme of circumstances.
>To be blunt, I'm here to safeguard the community, not play babysitter. I
>think we're all adults here.
>
>
> > Ok, my 2 cents on this one, humor me Michael please :-) in short I think
> > that if this will turn into a moderated list (as you appear to do, this
> > should probably be the policy for OT posts:
> >
> > "Any posting that has absolutely no interest to the specific Cold Fusion
> > community at large has the right to be edited, censored, or outright
>refused
> > by the administrator."
> >
> > For instance:
> >
> > Off topic: "I have a JavaScript question": Should be tolerated (CF people
> > use JavaScript, HTML, and *gulp* ASP all the time + other web languages)
> >
> > Off topic: "Cold Fusion Christmas party or CFUG meeting" should be
>tolerated
> > even if it belongs in cf-community (we are human and we like to have fun,
> > meeting other CF users is ok)
> >
> > Off topic: "Aliens have landed!" being just about that: NOT tolerated
> >
> > Off topic posts, have various degrees of tolerability if you will. Even
> > though some might be more sensitive than others, they are all important to
> > the community at large. This needs to be respected IMHO.
> >
> > Gregory Harris
> > Web Developer
> > Stirling Bridge Group LLC
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 2:11 PM
> > Subject: (Admin) The evil one talks
> >
> >
> > Well, yes. I know that other people are going to start offering
> > > "uncensored" versions of the list and they have all the right in the
>world
> > > to do so. I host the lists for the GOOD of the community and if I feel
> > that
> > > good is being harmed, I'm going to take steps.
> > > Complaints, flames and such should go to me OFF LIST at
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > Michael Dinowitz
> > > Publisher - The Fusion Authority (www.fusionauthority.com/alert)
> > > ListManager - CF-Talk, CF-Jobs, Spectra-Talk, JRun-Talk, etc.
> > > (www.houseoffusion.com)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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