Thanks, Gerald. I'll take a look at it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 8:44 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF 9 and CF Builder Beta 2 released



Dave,
You should take a look @ OBD and/or Railo. I know that such a migration is
easier said than done on a live server and often fraught with peril. But
then again going from V.5 to 6 required a fairly significant amount of code
changes.

But, if you don't want to learn PHP, there *are* viable free alternatives to
Adobe CF. Especially if you can live with out running the the latest and
greatest Adobe version. I have been very pleased with Railo and have
migrated several apps to Railo and it was relatively painless. I am not sure
about sandboxing apps and security concerns in a shared hosting environment
(that has not come up yet) but alurium (http://alurium.com/) has been
offering Railo in a shared hosting environment so it can be done.

G!


On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:24 PM, David Long <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> You're right, we don't have to upgrade and we haven't.
>
> What may happen if it should become a problem is I'll have to move my
files
> away from our shared server to another hosting provider. The most
traumatic
> part of that is loss of the readily available support from the other
> designers in our group and, worst of all, loss of personal access to the
CF
> Administrator. After doing some shopping, I've found none of them are
> anxious to let me add my own DBs and Scheduled tasks or check logs,
> whatever.
>
> So I'll just keep on with CF5 and hoping nothing goes wrong.
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Watts [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 1:58 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: CF 9 and CF Builder Beta 2 released
>
>
>
> > There are currently three of us hosting a total of about 120 sites that
> use
> > CF5. (We have sites that don't use CF and I don't actually administer
the
> CF
> > server except to add ODBC data sources and an occasional scheduled
task.)
> It
> > just isn't practical for us to spend $8,000 every other year on a new
> > version of CF.
>
> Why would you have to spend $8000 every other year? You haven't
> upgraded in years. You could upgrade once, and then hold off for
> several more years.
>
> > Should we find it necessary to use new tech to satisfy our clients, our
> only
> > affordable option will be php. The thought of having to learn new code
> makes
> > me grumpy, hence the complaint.
>
> Well, paying $8000 might seem like a lot, but if you value your time
> it's not that much. I could make a lot more than that in the amount of
> time it would take to convert 120 sites from CF to PHP. But anyway, do
> these 120 sites need Enterprise functionality? Maybe you can get away
> with the much cheaper Standard version.
>
> But now, again, I don't really understand your complaint. If you don't
> have to upgrade to new technology, you can keep on keeping on. If you
> do, it's going to cost you something - either time or money or both.
> That has nothing to do with the frequency of Adobe's releases.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
>
> Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
> Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
> Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!
>
>
>
> 



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