You seem primarily interested in defending Adobe and attacking open
source projects. I find this rather unhelpful and churlish. I was not
trying to start a political discussion at all but rather pointing out
to the community that a rather promising project has met its demise. I
would like to see a standards body for CFML that pushes an evolving
language framework forward while still giving individual
implementations room to innovate. As a community of developers, we
stand the best chance of maintaining and expanding our ranks if a new
developer can come in, see a well written language spec and know that
if they jump into a project they can deploy it on a CF9 multi-instance
cluster at an enterprise site fronted by a BigIP load balancer or they
can demo it on a $10 a month Railo VPS.

I have no desire to get into any blame games and I hope that we avoid
them all together. I just want to see a promising project revived
because I think it will be to the benefit of us all.

Judah

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Wil Genovese <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Adobe CURRENTLY owns the ColdFusion trademark. This has not always been the 
> case but the trademark has always been commercially owned.
>
> about Railo "I can honestly say that I have never seen a more responsive 
> project. Community suggestions are made on the mailing list, discussed, 
> dropped in JIRA and implemented all the time. As in weekly."
>
> This is most likely the problem that Sean was referring to.  Being responsive 
> to the community is one thing, being overly responsive is a problem.  Just 
> because one person asks for something and three more chime in with "me to 
> +++++++++++1" does not make the request 'community driven'.  Sean was saying 
> Railo needs to wait and see what parts of their flavor of CFML become 
> popular.  This means too many requests are added too quickly without proper 
> market research.
>
> Adobe is responding to the community in a mature fashion. Absorbing 
> multitudes of requests, flushing out those requests, talking to the 
> community, to major players and companies that use ColdFusion to see if a 
> request makes sense and would be useful. This method helps ensure that only 
> the best requests get added into CFML and helps ensure proper and complete 
> implementation.
>
> To me Railo seems to be adding to their flavor of CFML as fast as the 
> children say 'ooh, I want'.  This results in a fat bloated language spec (and 
> fat child

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