I agree with you 100% on the importance of community, Scott. I'm what I consider a "hacker" programmer... no formal training. (Only programming experience prior to CF was on my 1982 Radio Shack Color Computer with 4K of RAM and an audio cassette player for holding programs... it was fun, however!:o)
I just keep "hacking away" at what I'm trying to achieve and bugging people on this list until I get there. However, I would *never* have been able to move forward, even at the relatively slow pace I have, without the help of the patient help of the people who frequent this list. ColdFusion Server: $1200 Help from the ColdFusion community: priceless Rick -----Original Message----- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 1:47 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Is Coldfusion losing it biggest asset? I am going to answer the question you asked in the subject of the thread. No. ColdFusion is not losing its biggest asset. To me, ColdFusion's biggest asset is you, and Charlie and Dave and Rick and everyone else on this list and other CF support lists. I think ColdFusion's biggest asset is the community of developers who take it upon themselves to help out newcomers to the language, as well as help to address complex issues that even the most seasoned CF developer might encounter. Yea, we bicker form time to time, but for the most part, we are a good lot. Very passionate. On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Irvin Gomez <[email protected]> wrote: > > Coming from a design, not programming, background, I embraced Coldfusion for all the well-known reasons: easy to use, easy to learn, easy, easy...you get the idea. > > With the advent of more advanced features, everywhere I go I see a big push for moving Coldfusion and Coldfusion development into very complicated frameworks and OOP. The usual reason given is that not doing so runs the risk of rendering the Coldfusion developer obsolete in the job marketplace. > > So, my first question: if the reason for going in the direction suggested is fear of becoming 'unemployable', wouldn't it make far more sense to move into something more "popular" like PHP, .Net, etc. right away? Because the same argument can be used to scare even the most advanced Coldfusion developers: no matter how good you are, you're still part of a very small minority and doing coldfusion instead of PHP will make you obsolete sooner or later. > > Second and final question: what's really wrong with a procedural approach when dealing with medium or small web sites (which I imagine is the majority of work entrusted to your average Coldfusion developer)? Is there a legitimate need to learn what *APPEARS* to be over-complicated and clumsy frameworks and OOP strategies? > > And, please, know i'm not trying to create a flame war. I'm not pretending to be an expert (I'm not) in Coldfusion matters. I'm just trying get the real-world perspective of fellow developers far more experienced and knowledgeable than me. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340691 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
