So just because that is the way things have been, they should continue? Come on Dave... Imagine if people saw a big market for CF and companies knew the full extent of its capabilities. Imagine of Adobe spent as much as it does for Flash or Photoshop in getting the word out as it does for CF. Having a smaller pool of developers is beneficial to us as it keeps our rates high, but that is not sustainable. I find more and more companies moving away from CF...partly because of misconceptions about the product and partly because of the difficulty of finding developers period...let alone good developers. Most CF shops I have been to (here in the US)are mostly staffed with folks from, India because they can't find any American developers because the American developers are already employed, or they have moved on to other languages that have a larger corporate audience. Don't you think that it would behoove Adobe to go out and do some marketing and get some good awareness of CF and get the facts out? The status quo is not working...we are hemorrhaging companies that use CF...Hel...there was a discussion earlier this week about how the government is even going away from CF. Sounds to me like Adobe (as Macromedia did) sat on CF's laurels in the marketing department and didn't do much to grow the business.
-----Original Message----- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 22:00 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Is Coldfusion losing it biggest asset? > > This bodes well in that as long as it is profitable they won't kill > > it entirely, but it's certainly no way to grow the product. > > Oh come on! After the huge list of enhancements added in both ACF8 and > ACF9? And creating a dedicated IDE for CFML development? And a roadmap > containing updated versions of both ACF ("X") and CFBuilder (plans for > 2.0 and 3.0)? You really believe they're not "grow[ing] the product" > with all of those advances and investment and effort?? Yeah, I don't really get this either. Adobe's clearly pouring tons of effort into improving the product, even cannibalizing features from other products. But if there's one thing that's always been true of the CF user base, it's always had its fair share of vocal critics of how CF is being managed, marketed, etc. I've been working with CF since version 1, and this has always been the way things are. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340865 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
