Ben - if you think there's a venue in which the discussion *could* be
had productively, I'd love to be a part of it, or at the very least,
do whatever I could to help make it happen.  Just say the word.

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Ben Forta <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Charlie,
>
> I'd love to have a productive discussion on this subject. And yes, I have
> opinions on this one, I've shared them before and am happy to do so again.
> And no, as much as I admire Adam's passion for ColdFusion (it's why I nudged
> him into the role), I don't fully agree with his take on things. But
> regardless, I don't think this thread can be steered anywhere. When
> conversations denigrate to emotional rants and accusations and
> unsubstantiated sweeping generalizations, that's when I back away.
>
> --- Ben
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:28 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Anyone know anything about this new ColdFusion conference?
>
>
> Rather than ignore it... is it worth trying to steer in a more productive
> direction?  Can it be a productive discussion?
>
> I've gone on record before as saying I don't think the existence of the
> alternate engines spells the doom of Adobe ColdFusion.  I may be wrong, but
> lord I hope not.  Adobe ColdFusion has been -very- good to me over the past
> 15 years, not just professionally, but personally.
> Many of the people that I consider my best friends are friends that I've
> made in the CF community.  So I've got both a personal and professional
> interest in this, and it's a subject that I care about quite a bit.
>
> If it can't be done here... so be it.  Just seems that we have
> representation from all sides, and nobody seems to be too shy about sharing
> how they feel.  All we need to do is steer the discussion in a direction
> where it's more productive and constructive.  Assuming that direction...
> y'know... exists.
>
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Ben Forta <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Good point, I guess I blocked those from my memory.
>>
>> Oh well, I guess I'll just have to ignore this pointless banter up for
>> a few more days before the thread makes it to the CF-Talk Rogues Gallery.
>>
>> --- Ben
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dave Watts [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 8:58 PM
>> To: cf-talk
>> Subject: Re: Anyone know anything about this new ColdFusion conference?
>>
>>
>>> I officially nominate this thread as the least productive on cf-talk
> ever.
>>
>> I'm sorry, Ben, but this one isn't even close. Are you forgetting all
>> the "why isn't CF/CFB free" threads? Or the "is CF dying" threads?
>> This one will need at least twenty more replies before it's even in
>> the same category.
>>
>> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>> http://www.figleaf.com/
>> http://training.figleaf.com/
>>
>> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA
>> Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
>> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> 

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