Thanks again Steve. It looks like a good read. Hopefully, I will be able to wear them down if not convince them :-)
On a side, we also had Mike Brunt help with some JVM performance tuning. I don't guess I need to tell you what a good choice that was. :-) .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com http://cf4em.com -----Original Message----- From: Steve 'Cutter' Blades [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 6:34 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: To Fusionreactor or not to Fusionreactor Bobby, This post will give you some insight on the environment, and it's challenges: http://blog.cutterscrossing.com/index.cfm/2008/6/22/Build-Applications-That- Scale As for settings and production...We didn't really run into any showstoppers. We pushed it to give us a lot of info (AMF introspection, db transaction logging, etc) and it was consistently our lifesaver. Paid for itself within 10 min of install (without it, it would've taken days to figure out what was going on), and time and time again. Once we were hit with a SQL injection attack (way legacy code). FR helped us discover who and how in minutes, and we were able to reverse engineer the attack and recover in short order (Mike Brunt was in, on contract, to help us with JVM tuning that day and got to witness all of that, it was pretty impressive how quick we got to react on that). Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer ____________ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Co-Author "Learning Ext JS 3.2" Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-st yle-user-interfaces/book "The best way to predict the future is to help create it" On 3/9/2011 4:47 PM, Bobby Hartsfield wrote: > Thanks Steve. I remember when the guys were demo-ing FR at Cfunited a few > years ago. It definitely stole the show (at least on the vendor floor). I > loved the depth of it and miss it a lot... especially now that we have a > ghost in the machine that no logs are really pointing us to. > > I'd love to hear more about the environment you use it in and whether or not > you know of any known FR conjurations or settings that might not be suitable > for production environments. > > .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. > Bobby Hartsfield > http://acoderslife.com > http://cf4em.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve 'Cutter' Blades [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:44 PM > To: cf-talk > Subject: Re: To Fusionreactor or not to Fusionreactor > > > No time now, and you can ping me off list, but I'll tell you FR is > fantastic, highly critical in a heavy load environment, and it was a > standing order with my previous team that whenever a server is purchased > that FR is always part of the quote and budget process. > > Steve 'Cutter' Blades > Adobe Certified Expert > Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer > ____________ > http://blog.cutterscrossing.com > > > Co-Author "Learning Ext JS 3.2" Packt Publishing 2010 > https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-st > yle-user-interfaces/book > > "The best way to predict the future is to help create it" > > > On 3/9/2011 2:43 PM, Bobby Hartsfield wrote: >> All, >> >> I'd like to hear from some of you that might be running FusionReactor in >> HEAVY load production environments. I'd especially like to know if you > have >> compared server performance statistics with and without Fusionreactor >> installed to measure its true overhead in your setup. >> >> We have a very high traffic CF application that runs on many load balanced >> CF8 Enterprise servers. (we've had to reassure adobe reps that the numbers >> we are reporting are correct when they ask about traffic... it's quite >> funny) >> >> At one point, we invested in Fusionreactor (many copies of it) and > installed >> it on our servers. It quickly helped us work through a performance issue > we >> were having (Charlie Arehart actually helped us track it down through >> FusionReactor)... and as far as I was concerned, that made it all worth > it. >> However, we eventually started seeing some spikes that IT deemed the > result >> of having FusionReactor installed. I'll have to admit that performance did >> SEEM to get better without it installed... but I think it might have just >> been the "whole out of sight, out of mind" mentality. We no longer had a >> bird's eye view into what was actually happening in real time so everyone >> thought it was "better". Besides, too many people swear by FR for it to > have >> any real noticeable overhead... right? >> >> I'd like to get us back to using it if at all possible so I'm wondering if >> there might be such a thing as bad FR configurations that could cause > server >> performance issues. >> >> IIRC, the primary issues we saw were high jrun memory usage and high CPU >> utilization. Well... we are having the same issues now but there is no FR > to >> blame. I have dug through jconsole and CF/IIS logs before, during and > after >> we see these spikes and I have not found anything... which is exactly why >> I'd like to get FusionReactor back into the mix. >> >> I'm just starting to build up the arsenal behind the suggestion (since the >> one or two people I would have to convince are not the easiest people to > do >> that with) >> >> So... what say all of you about FusionReactor's overhead in heavy load >> environments? >> >> >> .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. >> Bobby Hartsfield >> http://acoderslife.com >> http://cf4em.com >> >> >> >> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342897 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
