Thanks Rex. I have never used it actually. Do you think it has any advantages over FusionRactor? I've always heard others say FR is light weight as well.
I thought about asking what people thought of the two in comparison but I found and read this: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:54007 If there is no real gain, we'd just stick with the one we already own multiple copies of I'm sure. .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com http://cf4em.com -----Original Message----- From: rex [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 4:58 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: To Fusionreactor or not to Fusionreactor Have you tried SeeFusion for your server monitoring needs? It's very lightweight. On 3/10/2011 9:16 AM, Bobby Hartsfield wrote: > Thanks again Steve. It looks like a good read. Hopefully, I will be able to > wear them down if not convince them :-) > > On a side, we also had Mike Brunt help with some JVM performance tuning. I > don't guess I need to tell you what a good choice that was. :-) > > .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. > Bobby Hartsfield > http://acoderslife.com > http://cf4em.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve 'Cutter' Blades [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 6:34 AM > To: cf-talk > Subject: Re: To Fusionreactor or not to Fusionreactor > > > Bobby, > > This post will give you some insight on the environment, and it's > challenges: > > http://blog.cutterscrossing.com/index.cfm/2008/6/22/Build-Applications-That- > Scale > > As for settings and production...We didn't really run into any > showstoppers. We pushed it to give us a lot of info (AMF introspection, > db transaction logging, etc) and it was consistently our lifesaver. Paid > for itself within 10 min of install (without it, it would've taken days > to figure out what was going on), and time and time again. Once we were > hit with a SQL injection attack (way legacy code). FR helped us discover > who and how in minutes, and we were able to reverse engineer the attack > and recover in short order (Mike Brunt was in, on contract, to help us > with JVM tuning that day and got to witness all of that, it was pretty > impressive how quick we got to react on that). > > Steve 'Cutter' Blades > Adobe Certified Expert > Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer > ____________ > http://blog.cutterscrossing.com > > > Co-Author "Learning Ext JS 3.2" Packt Publishing 2010 > https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-st > yle-user-interfaces/book > > "The best way to predict the future is to help create it" > > > On 3/9/2011 4:47 PM, Bobby Hartsfield wrote: >> Thanks Steve. I remember when the guys were demo-ing FR at Cfunited a few >> years ago. It definitely stole the show (at least on the vendor floor). I >> loved the depth of it and miss it a lot... especially now that we have a >> ghost in the machine that no logs are really pointing us to. >> >> I'd love to hear more about the environment you use it in and whether or > not >> you know of any known FR conjurations or settings that might not be > suitable >> for production environments. >> >> .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. >> Bobby Hartsfield >> http://acoderslife.com >> http://cf4em.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Steve 'Cutter' Blades [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:44 PM >> To: cf-talk >> Subject: Re: To Fusionreactor or not to Fusionreactor >> >> >> No time now, and you can ping me off list, but I'll tell you FR is >> fantastic, highly critical in a heavy load environment, and it was a >> standing order with my previous team that whenever a server is purchased >> that FR is always part of the quote and budget process. >> >> Steve 'Cutter' Blades >> Adobe Certified Expert >> Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer >> ____________ >> http://blog.cutterscrossing.com >> >> >> Co-Author "Learning Ext JS 3.2" Packt Publishing 2010 >> > https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-st >> yle-user-interfaces/book >> >> "The best way to predict the future is to help create it" >> >> >> On 3/9/2011 2:43 PM, Bobby Hartsfield wrote: >>> All, >>> >>> I'd like to hear from some of you that might be running FusionReactor in >>> HEAVY load production environments. I'd especially like to know if you >> have >>> compared server performance statistics with and without Fusionreactor >>> installed to measure its true overhead in your setup. >>> >>> We have a very high traffic CF application that runs on many load > balanced >>> CF8 Enterprise servers. (we've had to reassure adobe reps that the > numbers >>> we are reporting are correct when they ask about traffic... it's quite >>> funny) >>> >>> At one point, we invested in Fusionreactor (many copies of it) and >> installed >>> it on our servers. It quickly helped us work through a performance issue >> we >>> were having (Charlie Arehart actually helped us track it down through >>> FusionReactor)... and as far as I was concerned, that made it all worth >> it. >>> However, we eventually started seeing some spikes that IT deemed the >> result >>> of having FusionReactor installed. I'll have to admit that performance > did >>> SEEM to get better without it installed... but I think it might have just >>> been the "whole out of sight, out of mind" mentality. We no longer had a >>> bird's eye view into what was actually happening in real time so everyone >>> thought it was "better". Besides, too many people swear by FR for it to >> have >>> any real noticeable overhead... right? >>> >>> I'd like to get us back to using it if at all possible so I'm wondering > if >>> there might be such a thing as bad FR configurations that could cause >> server >>> performance issues. >>> >>> IIRC, the primary issues we saw were high jrun memory usage and high CPU >>> utilization. Well... we are having the same issues now but there is no FR >> to >>> blame. I have dug through jconsole and CF/IIS logs before, during and >> after >>> we see these spikes and I have not found anything... which is exactly why >>> I'd like to get FusionReactor back into the mix. >>> >>> I'm just starting to build up the arsenal behind the suggestion (since > the >>> one or two people I would have to convince are not the easiest people to >> do >>> that with) >>> >>> So... what say all of you about FusionReactor's overhead in heavy load >>> environments? >>> >>> >>> .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. >>> Bobby Hartsfield >>> http://acoderslife.com >>> http://cf4em.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342911 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
