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----- Original Message -----
From: "Benjamin S. Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 11:26 AM
Subject: RE: Fusebox
> > Amen to that, i have been using fusebox for a while now, and my
> > opinion is that it is another layer of stuff on top of what you
> > already have to do.
>
> When you get down to it, any methodology is just "another layer of stuff."
> Fundamentally, however, a methodology is an attempt to superimpose an
order
> or structure to code. Although it would be nice if a methodology decreased
> the amount of work a single developer had to perform to code a given
> application, a methodology usually has some loftier goals such as
> synchronizing disparate developers on the same team, quality assurance,
code
> documentation, etc.
>
> It's been my experience that the larger the project, the better Fusebox is
> at accomplishing these goals. If, however, you are simply adding a guest
> book to a relatively static site, then Fusebox would add quite a bit of
> overhead and development time while gaining the developer very little,
short
> term or long.
>
> > I think i would p[ersonally tone down the fusebox methodology myself,
> > it needs to be alot less complicated to trully be a catch all
> > solution.
>
> Many people, myself included, have adopted pieces of the Fusebox
> methodology. How much you adopt, if any at all, is up to you.
>
> > When the fuse breaks its maddening, and is just another layer to run
> > through to fix stuff.
>
> Debugging a Fusebox application takes a little getting use to (like an
hour
> :), but I prefer it to other attempts I've seen which try and make the
best
> use of code through reuse. A Fusebox application has one entry point and
one
> exit point. All the developer has to do is trace the path of the
FuseAction.
> The only time I really run into problems is when I have several included
> query templates in a row and I get a cryptic ODBC error message and a
> ColdFusion "Problem occurred in tag <CFQUERY> at or around line 1...."
Then
> it takes the extra step of aborting processing of the page a couple times
to
> determine which query is in error.
>
> > And i don't buy the whole makes it easier to bring in other
> > programmers, because almost all of them will have to learn fusebox
> > and the particular way its used where they are working.
>
> I don't think you're being asked to buy anything. :) We require that our
> programmers be familiar with Fusebox and to be able to code in a manner
> similar to Fusebox. The same was true at the last place I worked where I
was
> head of production. This is, of course, not a requirement to getting
hired,
> nor do we code all our applications in this methodology. But we have found
> that it works very well on larger projects with several different
> specialized developers and teams working on dedicated tasks. With many a
> notable exception, most programmers/designers/DBAs I've met and worked
with
> seem to like the style, which is always a bonus. But of course, this is a
> highly subjective generalization. :)
>
> > I still like the idea of a methodology, im just not sold on fusebox
>
> As someone already noted, it is not necessary to like or "buy" fusebox,
but
> it is necessary to choose a methodology. Even if your methodology changes
> from project to project (and hopefully it will evolve), routinely dealing
> with reoccurring problems in the same manner and being able to expedite
the
> daily chores of programming is essential.
>
> In regards to Fusebox, it doesn't hurt that some very talented and
> experienced ColdFusion programmers have tackled these issues already.
That,
> to me, is one of the greatest benefits of Fusebox. Although we don't need
> many aspects of the Fusebox standard, they already exist and are freely
> available for us to implement when and if we do need them.
>
> Benjamin S. Rogers
> Web Developer, c4.net
> voice: (508) 240-0051
> fax: (508) 240-0057
>
>
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