>I don't quite see it that way, Peter. > > ... > >It's been a looooong week...
And a long rambling post, which seems to be missing the points I was making. :P The W3C will always be doing the major milestone nonsense, because they're a big bureaucratic organisation that does stuff like that. That's *why* the WHATWG was created and ditched all the XHTML nonsense. Oh, and there's a reason the WHATWG was founded by Mozilla, Opera, and WebKit. The browser vendors *don't* have an interest in HTML incompatibilities - there's no benefit to it, and it's not how they're marketing themselves. If they were making money from browsers then they might fix it all sooner, but at least we are converging towards it, and it's a good thing people don't need to pay money to get better browsers. Just because SitePoint are crap at doing books/tutorials/titles/whatever doesn't mean that HTML5 and CSS3 can't be used. Even if it all doesn't work in IE9, it doesn't matter - you don't care what works in which browsers! You do feature detection so users with most advanced browsers have the best experience, and everyone else has a good enough experience. Of course, if a particular feature will take time to implement, it's worth checking who currently/soon supports it, to make sure the work isn't a waste of time because nobody can use it ( see http://caniuse.com ), but on the whole stop worrying about supporting particular browser versions. Mobiles add small screens, zooming, and rotating screens to the mix, but beyond that they're not really bringing anything new. And there's no reason why you can't have a distinct mobile site, if your main site has features which don't translate well. Anyway, if it has been a long week you should stop worrying about all this and relax a bit - that's exactly what weekends were designed for. ;) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345693 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm