Dave, I never said that neither way was improper. What I stated was that the tag cfabort was introduced to satisfy the needs of developers who needed a way to abort the page for debugging purposes.
I never talked about developers could not figure out what cfabort is for, what I am saying is that when you begin to make changes to the application one will end up scratching their heads as to why some snippet of code is not working, only to find that a developer 2-10 years ago wrote dodgy code that put a cfabort into a template when there is no need to do that. It is all about letting the natural process continue for that exact reason, and you wonder why ColdFusion gets a bad name. Anyone who picks up an Application and then has to scratch their heads to figure out why something is not working, has to waste time going through the code to figure out why, and that to me screams bad decision making at the time that snippet of code was written. Dave, you can argue things that I have not actually said, or you can imply what you think I mean. You will never change my mind that you should avoid using cfabort, than what it was intended for and what 99.99% of people actually do use it for. Sure there are many things in ColdFusion that one could do it this way or that, and then we are right back to the dark ages of spaghetti code, and people bagging the language because they believe the work flow to be badly written. The point is that Claude made it very clear that he is not using onRequestEnd.cfm, he also made it very clear that he likes to output data and then do a cfabort to make sure the page has ended, and I will ask for what real benefit? Now, what if he decided to reuse this code in another template only to find that he has to rewrite that code, because something new needs to run that code, then fails to run he then has to find another way to do his job. So why not write it as if you are intending to reuse the code in the first place, and that there is a huge potential that one might want to call this code from another template. It doesn't take an Einstein to work out that if you are looking at exciting the template there are more better and efficient ways of doing it, that is my point and I will say it again, you will not change my mind on this. IF a developer can't take the initiative to make their jobs easier, whether it be now or 10 years from now, then I have no time for those people because they are caught up in the moment, and not thinking about the what ifs when it comes to their style of coding. I mean we are hear discussing this, because bad code was written in the first place. Sure you can do it the way Claude has done it, does it make it work right, well it did then but not anymore. And that just makes my point even stronger. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] > Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2011 1:44 AM > To: cf-talk > Subject: Re: application.cfm > > > > No Dave, I look at what the next developer or I might be doing in > > 6-12months time. I think that people should look at the problem at > > hand now and the future, and foresee maybe things might change. Would > > it no be better to write something properly now, rather than scratch > > your head and then rewrite the code again later when you requirements > change? > > You continue to assume that, because you prefer one way of doing things, > the other isn't "proper". But that continued assumption doesn't make it true. > I can't imagine a developer having trouble figuring out how CFABORT works. > If such a developer exists, he would be better suited to employment in > another field. > > Anyway, this will be my last response to this thread. You have done > something I didn't think possible - make me agree with Claude. > Clearly, this marks the beginning of the apocalypse. > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > http://training.figleaf.com/ > > Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA > Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at > our training centers, online, or onsite. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~~~~~~~~~~| > Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! > http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- > Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion > Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- > talk/message.cfm/messageid:345856 > Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- > talk/unsubscribe.cfm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345861 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
