As I also recently discovered There is also the fact that with solr if one collection breaks or becomes.corrupt, solr stops working completely for every collection and every site.
Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine On Mar 13, 2013 7:33 PM, "Dave Watts" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Yes, I am! Beyond rack-mounting the GSA and initial configuration, if > >> you simply have web content all you have to do is give the GSA your > >> home page URL, and ... that's it. You don't have to define index > >> repositories (which is what a Solr collection is), you don't have to > > > > But this isn't necessarily a bad thing. If you want separate search > indexes > > (perhaps one for blog entries versus one for content) then you would > > want/need to do this. I assume GSA would also allow for this, but would > > also require configuration. > > Yes, you can create collections in the GSA, and use those to filter > search results. Collections don't really mean the same thing in the > GSA as they do in Solr or Verity - you only have one index in the GSA > - but you can use collections as if they were separate indexes if you > like. > > But going to your original point, you don't have to set that up if you > don't want that, and we were specifically talking about ease of use. > So, on one system, you have to create collections whether you want > them or not, and on the other system, you don't. > > >> explicitly index items or schedule a time for them to be indexed - and > >> those two items are where a lot of the complexity often ends up. > > > > Really? Assuming you have a CFC handling your persistence, it is one line > > in the save method, one line in delete. I just went through this with my > > own blog. Ok, that may be more work than nothing, but... seriously - it > was > > < 5 minutes configuration to the code. > > It's one line of code vs no lines of code. No lines wins! > > >> The GSA will index your content all by itself. It will optimize the > >> crawl schedule for that content, meaning that it won't unnecessarily > >> reindex things that haven't changed.* You don't have to optimize or > > > > Neither will Solr.;) > > Well, hold on a second here. There are two common approaches I see > with Solr and CF apps. Either you're specifically triggering indexing > when you create content, which over time causes performance > degradation in Solr, or you have a scheduled reindexing process which > reindexes everything. In the latter case, you're unnecessarily > reindexing things that haven't changed, because it's cheaper than > tracking what has changed and only reindexing that. And if you do > spend the time to track what has changed, that's implementation time > and effort spent. > > > You can specify a separate Solr server in the CF Admin, and as far as I > > know, the cfindex/cfsearch code doesn't change at all. (To be clear > though, > > I haven't tested this.) So if your system did move from 1 to N, it should > > be relative simply to also switch to one central Solr server too. > > That's all correct. But there are some perhaps non-obvious logistical > issues. For example, If you're indexing file content from multiple > systems, how do you get that file content to Solr? > > > To be clear - I'm not arguing GSA isn't worth it - just not agreeing with > > Solr being that difficult to use. :) > > I don't think I said that Solr is that difficult to use. I just said > that, overall, the GSA is easier to use (again, once the box is > actually rack-mounted and given an IP address). > > But honestly, that's not why I think people should use GSA. They > should use it because it works better. It provides better relevance. > It runs faster. It has quite a bit of additional functionality. I've > worked with quite a few people who migrated from Solr to GSA, and they > could chew your ear off telling you about the GSA's advantages. > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > http://training.figleaf.com/ > > Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on > GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized > instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354982 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
