Well I think the old "cf is not a real programming language" Stigma that CF used to have is really only going to be voiced by old biased cf haters from the last century. anyone new coming to cf is not likely to be confronted with that. It is far more likely that they go ask on a forum "what language should I learn" and CF is not even mentioned. It certainly isn't heralded as the "easy to learn" or "only need a basic bunch of tags" solution any more, even though it still can do that, because everyone is so OOP obsessed they wont even consider suggesting a non OOP approach, which is a shame. Anyone wanting a simple, easy to learn newbie language these days is likely to be pointed toward ROR.
CF has always been a total PITA from a hosting perspective due to the fact it is JAVA which doesn't run as a process like PHP or ASP.NET, which is also what causes all its security and performance issues as well, it really has no place in the shared hosting world, Java and thus CF really do belong in the enterprise world. The only way to run CF as a process I am aware of is to use the Helicon zoo engine with Railo, which runs each website as a separate java process under application pool identity, so completely isolates every site as you would PHP. Once upon a time it did used to be cheaper and more cost effective to use CF because it was so much faster to produce the end result, but that is not the case any more. Using CF is actually more expensive in every way due to the lack of off the shelf apps and OSS. Anyone with a bit of savvy can knock out a website in WorldPress in a day, pickup a cheap template, and no development cost as there is a plugin for just about anything you could imagine. To do the same in CF has quite a hefty cost, the best you could do is use MangoBlog or Mura, but they are unlikely to do everything you need out of the box, and there are are very few templates, so you will need a designer and a cf developer. A CFDEV charges considerably more than a PHP dev on average as well. Where CF is still strong I think is for bespoke apps and backend systems where there is no off the shelf OSS that will do what you need. Or for folks that want to leverage the power of Java in a more simple way. But Then Groovy/Grails is also a seriously contender on that front too and they are FREE. It is easy to say CF is wonderful if CF is the only thing you know, sure it allows you to write less code and get more results right out of the box, but with all the frameworks out there days for every other language, they are all capable of doing pretty much the same thing, just not "out of the box", but then CF is really just a framework for java if you think about it. On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 9:17 PM, Scott Brady <[email protected]> wrote: > > They can certainly consider pricing options, but what would a student price > get them that the Developer Edition doesn't get them? Student pricing is > typically only usable for non-production/non-commercial uses (i.e., > development), so it seems like the free Developer Edition covers that. > > Scott > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Adobe missed the boat years ago to give it away either free or at a > student > > price. > > > -- > ----------------------------------------- > Scott Brady > http://www.scottbrady.net/ > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355017 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
