I've spent about 70% of my time over the last 5 years developing in PHP, 
including developing a customized installation of Joomla for a radio station 
client that included live streaming and audio archives. I've also rolled a 
customized CMS through the PHP framework Kohana.  I, for one am happy to let go 
of the content updates and the radio station example allowed the program hosts 
to manage their own program content, archives, blogs and links to externals.

IMHO, as some have mentioned, Joomla is a bloated beast to customize. It does 
what it does well, though and has a solid role/permission setup and tons of 
plugin functionality. For a simple 10 page site, though, it's probably too 
much. For CFML CMS options, I find FarCry to be similarly troublesome to 
customize (I haven't worked with the newest versions, though)  I've played 
around under the hood with Mura and I find it to be very promising as a CMS 
platform to build a site around. It's fast and straightforward in the way it 
approaches what it does.  

As far as design goes, I've never been able to take a Joomla site with a 
template and deploy it out-of-the-box. They all need customization, based on 
the way the client wants to use them.  The newest version of Joomla is better 
for customizing.

A customized CMS, whichever you choose, makes clients feel pleased and 
empowered. You'll still have plenty of work to do fixing the odd mistakes, 
adding functionality, and helping them through the learning curves.  I've found 
that the more a client interacts with their site, the more valuable it becomes 
as a business tool and the more requests I get to add functionality and 
features to help then.

Best of luck,
Jon

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 4:26 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: SOT: Client wants CMS that functions similar to Joomla, for example
> 
> 
> Hi, guys...
> 
> Just need some recommendations from some of you who have been down this road 
> before.
> 
> I have a client that is asking for what amounts to absolute control over 
> their site through a CMS. Among a few others they metioned, Joomla was 
> brought up.
> 
> I'm checking them out myself, but wanted to cut to the chase based on 
> experience from those who have used CMS's that provide control such as Joomla.
> 
> What have you tried? What turned out to work well? What bombed?
> I've always "rolled my own", and never used a ready-made CMS, so I have zero 
> experience with them.
> 
> (Joomla seems like it replaces me as a designer/developer, at first glance.
> If a client has a CMS that allows them to do everything that I do for them 
> now, including selecting themes for pages they add to the site themselves 
> (designer), manage data through Joomla functionality (developer), I wonder if 
> I would end up as a "Joomla Installer & Maintenance" person for the client. 
> ???)
> 
> Thoughts? Suggestions?
> 
> Thanks for any feedback!
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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