I agree with Ben and Dave.... There was a point, where I was siding with Adam on this. But Ben you make a good point, which I think Dave was trying to get at. SysAdmins by default are the type that want to do everything, they need to know what it is they have control over. Therefore, if Adobe in this case locked it down, they would become too complacent with the product.
But.... Where Adam is coming from, is that there are a lot more people out there developing and maintaining cheap VPS servers for clients, which has been a huge push by the Community to some degree when hosting ever pops up. You know I feel safer having someone who manages the SysAdmin side of it, than rely on my knowledge as a developer. The problem is the perception of the younger developers coming up, is just that, they expect things to be done for them, in cases like what Adam is describing is that it is locked down 100%. Which I think would force these younger, newer developers to ColdFusion, to then learn the security of ColdFusion if they are forced to begin unlocking what they need. Now the question is how would Adobe then begin to cater for both those worlds? Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 2:12 AM, Ben Forta <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sure, the installer could make things simpler, and maybe should. But, > that's a double edged sword, make things easier and admins will be even > less likely to learn and manage what they really need to. At the end of the > day, whether it is Windows or Apache or your mail server or CF or Java or > Oracle or anything else, if you think you can run install and click Next a > few times and then ignore a public facing server, you are asking for > trouble, and have no one to blame but yourself when it happens. > > --- Ben > > (Sent from a handheld device) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358128 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
