Exactly, I have sharp reservations about the way Macromedia may take CF.

Flash is all fine for sites who's content needs only to reach a small group
of people in a glitsy manner; but is a step in a wrong direction to web
content. Content and display are mixed to a very high degree (though the CF
FlashUI toolkit might change this a bit), it's not very cross platform
friendly, and most importantly it's a proprietary technology (client side
being the concerning part) leveraged at a specific market.

HTML, CSS, XML, and other standards are that... standards. We all work daily
w/ the kind of problems that industries declaring proprietary client side
technologies create. Just look at NS and IE, one only has to try to use the
DOM or CSS in either to understand the hassles created. The other major
issue is at least w/ the two main browsers it's still a text communication;
w/ Flash you are dealing w/ something that can't even be interpretted easily
w/o specific graphical and platform requirements.

You might wonder why I'm dealing so much w/ Flash... well we all know the
"Ooohh Ahhh" appeal such things create in warped minds ;) and horrendous
messes that ensue *cough*<blink></blink>*cough*. This seems to me as just
another brick in the road, leading the web away from data exchange and into
a Las Vegas neon lights contest (viewable only by people who can travel
there [ie. mainstream browser w/ tons of plugins, popular chip, popular
platform, good eyesight, no automatic parsing, etc.]).

</rant> :)


-----Original Message-----
From: Allan Pichler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: January 16, 2001 23:16
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge



Flash is all good .... for fancy presentations. But that's not where the
majority of inet use is. It's still about making nice but fast presentation
of useful data.

That's my 2 cents

Allan Pichler

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott, Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 6:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge


Name a succesful competitor to flash:-)

regards

Andrew Scott
Senior Cold Fusion Application Developer


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 17 January 2001 11:45
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge


Does Flash have this much penetration?

best,  paul

At 05:05 PM 1/16/01 -0500, you wrote:
>-- Macromedia(R) Flash(TM), the rich media standard, with a 96 percent Web
>        penetration;
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