You could always set up a special account with very strict limits, log in as
that user, open the task manager, and leave the machine logged in till the
error happens.  It's a sticky situation, but with a problem this serious you
might want to consider attempting to bend the rules just a bit and leave the
machine logged in.

Or you could log in as an admin and carry away the monitor so that nobody
can use it.  :)  Ok, maybe that's not such a good idea...

You could also try other things first such as updating ODBC drivers and NT
SPs...

-Cameron

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: cf-talk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 5:31 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: AW: CF-NT-Server hangs: no interaction possible
>
>
> Hi Cameron, thank you very much for your ideas.
>
> The problem is, when the machine freezes I can't interact with the machine
> anymore.
> Since it is a shared server the admins are to be told to logout.
> When I let
> task manager
> run I might do this, but I can't get it to get viewed anymore after
> freezing. Do you see what I mean ?
>
> MDAC, CF and other things are pretty new and I change them regularly.
>
> The only thing I can think of right now is to monitor with the NT-build-in
> monitoring tool
> because I can't sit days in front of the server and wait for the freezing.
> (most of the times this problem takes two to six days to show again)
>
> Or is there any other good monitoring tool out to do this job
> even better ?
>
> Uwe
>
>
> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Gesendet: Samstag, 3. Februar 2001 23:17
> An: CF-Talk
> Betreff: RE: CF-NT-Server hangs: no interaction possible
>
>
> > Any ideas what one might do in this kind of issue ?
>
> Uwe,
>
> I would say that There are probably alot of things which could cause this.
> If the machine is located nearby and not co-located, you might
> want to turn
> off any screen savers and put the Task Manager up in the screen with the
> Processes tab showing.  Next time the server freezes, walk over to the
> machine and see what programs are using the most memory,  and the most CPU
> %.  You will probably want to turn on VM size under "View/Select
> Columns" to
> get the whole memory picture.  Even though your server freezes, as long as
> the screen does not blank out you should be able to see what was happening
> on the server right when it froze.
>
> While you are waiting for it to freeze, you might want to just watch the
> Task Manager to look for odd behavior.  Just be careful not to jump to
> conclusions.  Certain things you think are odd at first may in fact be
> expected behavior.
>
> Make sure you have the latest ODBC drivers, MDAC, whatever for all of the
> database platforms in use on the server.  One of the most common
> things that
> can bog down and crash a CF server is an outta date ODBC driver, many of
> which have memory leaks.
>
> Also, you might want to look in the NT Event Viewer and see if any system
> errors have been occurring.  I usually don't get much good info
> outta there,
> but it couldn't hurt.
>
> Hopefully something I said will point you in the right direction....
>
> -Cameron
>
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> elliptIQ Inc.
> p.770.460.7277.232
> f.770.460.0963
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cf-talk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 3:15 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: CF-NT-Server hangs: no interaction possible
> >
> >
> > Hi list, we have a CF-NT-Server (NT 4 Server, SP5, with CF
> > Enterprise 4.5.1
> > SP2) that hangs every once in a while.
> > The bad thing is, that you can't get on the machine (with PCAny or VNC
> > remotely), because
> > almost every service is dead. The NIC is working fine.
> >
> > When locally coming to the machine everything is frozen.
> > But no blue screen.
> > You cannot interact with the machine via mouse or keyboard. You have to
> > reboot the machine via hard-reset.
> >
> > Looking in the logfiles doesn't give you any hint at all, what
> > process causes this.
> >
> > Any ideas what one might do in this kind of issue ?
>
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