I have only dabbled in other programming languages, but from what I can see, CF does 
most everything
the others do, but does it easier.

The high cost keeps it from being as popular as ASP and others.
I know lots of developers who are spending lots of time learning PHP since the 
Enterprise version of
CF is just too expensive to put on the server. There is just not enough demand for a 
higher priced
account.

Too bad Allaire/Macr... There are a lot of potential clients out there if it were just 
more
affordable.

Chris Giminez
Cyber Scriber






> I probably should not join this particular thread because I will probably be
> seen as very biased BUT.  But I am a relative newbie as an employee of
> Allaire now Macromedia.  My experience with using ColdFusion and briefly
> trying ASP is more relevant since I have used ColdFusion since late 1995-96.
> In reality ColdFusion should have died long ago as it has an appreciable up
> front cost.  But it did not die in the face of alternatives that have no up
> front costs.  In fact rather than ceasing to exist it grew exponentially in
> use. Also, the ColdFusion community has never seemed small to me as I
> struggled with and was presented with solutions to challenging issues, time
> and time again.
>
> Now, we have the honeymoon and final marriage of Allaire and Macromedia. I
> do not know what will eventually come out of this but I do know it will be
> fed and nurtured with ideas from all the worldwide developers and users of
> both former Macromedia and Allaire products and I do know that we are only
> limited by our own imaginations. My personal opinion is that now would
> definitely be the wrong time to move away from ColdFusion for anyone with a
> desire to be involved in the future of the Internet and the Web.
>
> Kind Regards - Mike Brunt
> Macromedia Consulting
> Tel 562.243.6255
> Fax 401.696.4335
> http://www.macromedia.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph Grossberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 12:28 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Is CF still relevant?
>
>
> Now, before you dismiss this as a troll, please let me elaborate. This isn't
>
> so much an instigation or a whine as it is a call for us to take a step back
>
> and reevalutate things periodically.
>
> Over the course of my career as a web programmer/developer, I have worked
> with a variety of sever-side languages and technologies: ColdFusion, ASP,
> JSP, PHP, Perl and Python. I like some more than others, but I'm not an
> evangelist for any; they each have their uses. And I recognize some of CF's
> strengths: easy to learn for people who know only tag-based HTML or don't
> have significant programming experience; built-in admin tool; specialized
> editor; comes with pre-built tags and web-based administrator. There are
> also major flaws: broken/sketchy tags; no XML parsing; not OOP; relatively
> small community; etc.
>
> Right now, I work at a web development firm that is primarily "a CF house"
> (besides me). Our more senior programmers are looking at honing their CF
> skills, while our less experienced webmasters are trying to learn
> ColdFusion. But, I can't help but wonder whether they are wasting their
> time. Would they be better off spending their time learning ASP, Java or
> another non-CF solution? Why or why not?
>
> And how would we tell if and when it was time to give up CF and try
> something else, as all but the most stubborn experts in also-ran languages
> (Ada, SmallTalk), applications (Netscape, Lotus Notes) and Operating Systems
>
> (Amiga) have resignedly done?
>
> Lastly, why do *you* still use CF? Is it because it's what you're best at,
> and you don't want to try something new (where, temporarily, you'd be a
> novice again)? Is it because your ccompany's legacy code is all in CF? Is it
>
> because you genuinely think that ColdFusion is, generally speaking, the best
>
> solution for web application development in 2001?
>
> Joe
>
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