Can we see this Hosting Service Provider Edition Eliminated Message?  or did
I miss a previous post about this?

Nathan Stanford
Senior Programmer/Analyst
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: gyrus [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 7:56 AM
> To:   CF-Talk
> Subject:      Hosting Service Provider Edition Eliminated
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've been sitting in on this list for a few months now, and
> the hoo-hah about CF5 licensing issues has been the
> first thread to really draw me in.
> 
> I began learning ColdFusion just over a year ago when I
> was employed as a journalist on a website where we
> were twiddling our thumbs pre-launch and our CF guy
> was slaving under untold pressure. I learnt enough in
> a week to be of use to him. Impressed by this (I *never*
> envisioned myself becoming involved in server-side
> technologies), I decided to delve further into CF.
> 
> I now feel confident building relatively secure, fully
> functional backend site adminstration systems in CF,
> integrated with frontend output.
> 
> Most of my 'bread and butter' now comes from corporate
> clients wanting CF sites built or tweaked; but more
> importantly to me, I'm able to offer the power of this
> technology to a number of smaller companies and
> charities at rates that make CF hosting costs feasible.
> The shallow learning curve of CF makes the extra cost
> of hosting a viable option for these smaller organisations -
> just.
> 
> Reading the recent thread about CF5 horrified me.
> Suddenly all the investment I'd made in learning more
> advanced CF seemed like a waste, and several projects
> that are very important to me (as well as a lot of business)
> seemed about to fly out the window.
> 
> It was encouraging, then, as someone enthusiastically
> entering into the CF developer community at the very
> time the Allaire/Macromedia merger is occurring, to see
> a (relatively) prompt, positive response from MM
> regarding the reactions on developers mailing lists.
> 
> Of course I think it would be great if CF was free. I
> wouldn't have to rely on limited developer hosting
> accounts for development purposes, and money would
> be saved all-round. But yeah, I can't see MM going
> for this. It might pay off if they went for it, but it'd
> be a risk.
> 
> On the other hand, it's good they realised they were
> shooting themselves in the foot by pricing the small-
> to-middle customers out in favour of ASP or PHP. I
> really think that CF's shallow learning curve makes
> this market as important as enterprise customers.
> 
> Being UK-based is a major factor for me. As bandwidth
> as so much more expensive outside the US, the extra
> cost of a non-free server-side technology is much
> more of an issue. Any drastic hiking of the price will
> filter down through from ISP's to developers, and
> back to CF, harming its chances of becoming a
> reasonable alternative to ASP or PHP.
> 
> There's a middle way between a free CF Server and
> one that only big clients can afford. I hope MM are
> finding it now and follow it through.
> 
> I feel committed to CF now, and this licensing scare
> was the first thing to make me question this. I'm
> hanging in now, as MM's positive response bodes well
> for the MM-CF developer relationship. I just wanted
> to let everyone know that I'm one CF newbie who
> is anxious to see CF flourish for all, not just those with
> money to burn.
> 
> cheers,
> 
> - Gyrus
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