Keep in mind that purchasing decisions are typically made by management, not developers. And there are a lot of companies that use PHP and Perl. And yes, they are very powerful and free. I don't care for Perl personally, but PHP is quite a cool little language.
Why do people buy CF? 1) ROI and 2)support Blah. I hate languageX vs languageY stuff. I say learn it all, and pick the best one for the situation. Once you've learned one web language, anyone with a handful of braincells can EASILY pick up another one (unless you allow yourself to be convinced that the language you "love" is the only one worth learning) --- Billy Cravens Web Development, EDS [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Tony Hicks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 6:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Networksolutions using CFM One thing you can't do with Cold Fusion is convince people of the language's strength.. <cf_moron problem="ignorance" NumberOfTimesToTryExplaining="50" IfNegativeResults="You'll see."> I've only gotten one php developer to migrate to Cold Fusion.. Here's the question I ask of developers.. IF PHP and Perl are so powerful and free then why does anyone buy Cold Fusion? And doesn't it seem like it would be the toy developers who would use the free languages? Oh, my boss would have loved having Cold Fusion for free, lol.. And another thing.. can someone tell me what's so divinely awesome about JSP?? I've looked at it and I'd rather write <CF..> anyday.. And no offense to you guys who believe JSP is better because some of you are undoubtedly better CFers than me.. but so far the only ones I've encountered that prefer JSP are the ones who code Cold Fusion literally like this: <cfoutput>#variable1#</cfoutput><cfoutput>#variable2#</cfoutput> <cfoutput>#variable3#</cfoutput><cfoutput>#variable4#</cfoutput> <cfoutput>#variable5#</cfoutput><cfoutput>#variable6#</cfoutput> Thanks, Tony Hicks ---------- Search the Holy Bible: http://www.bibleclicks.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Vinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 4:40 PM Subject: Re: Networksolutions using CFM > .. sentiments well taken, but for late entrants (like myself) into the corporate transaction-based world, this is very useful (important) reading. I'm > on the cusp of a decision (offer) to move into jsp/oracle/beans/etc. > ... from a pretty rewarding 10+ years of building educational multimedia. The market > is just a tad too soft & I feel that I have reached a plateau with > that other Macromedia product (Director). > -mv > > Billy Cravens wrote: > > > I get the feeling this thread is about to digress into a "CF vs. > > [insert language here]" thread ... Please no... > > > > --- > > Billy Cravens > > Web Development, EDS > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Brunt, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 3:35 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Networksolutions using CFM > > > > Since the Verisign thing the new (netsol I think) web site is pretty > > aweful and yes it does look like java now. Why oh why can't people > > be satisfied to use ColdFusion after all this time we are still seen > > as toy developers by some. The reality is there is little or > > nothing you cannot do with CF. > > > > Mike Brunt > > Sempra Energy > > 213.244.5226 > > "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose > > from." > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dan Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 1:27 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Networksolutions using CFM > > > > Verisign now owns them...officially anyway. Seems they are using > > quite a bit of jhtml too. > > > > Dan Phillips > > Lead Support Technician\ColdFusion Administrator > > Express Technologies, Inc. > > dba CFXhosting.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chad Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 4:24 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Networksolutions using CFM > > > > I just got an email from Networksolutions and in the email were > > links to CFM pages. Pretty cool to see Networksolutions using Cold > > Fusion for some things! > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
