In that case, I would make the client aware of the risks, and make them sign
a disclaimer.   Forgoing a client's 15-30 seconds of convenience, or even
losing a client, seems better than the potential liability.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Vawter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: Best practices storing CC


> I don't WANT to store credit card information. The question is whether the
> customer is willing to reenter cc number every month.  The billing is
> monthly but unlike a subscription the charge is not constant which seems
to
> be difficult for the providers to handle. Currently I use payflow from
> Verisign (cfm app by the way) and am perfectly happy with them. I am just
> afraid in this new scenario that a B2B customer is unlikely to be happy
> filling in cc info every month. Any better solutions would be very
welcome.
> I could even go the paper invoicing method if necessary but that seems
> terribly inefficient.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "BILLY CRAVENS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 1:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Best practices storing CC
>
>
> > <cf_cya>
> >     I would strongly recommend against storing credit card numbers
> anywhere.
> >     1. potential for thousands, if not millions, in dollars of liability
> >     2. if the site's customers find out, they will likely go somewhere
> else
> > (I do when I know a site stores my card #)
> >     3. performance - CF's encryption is too weak - you'd need to use
> > something third-party which would probably be a load increase
> >     4. see #1
> >     5. see #4
> >     6. see #5
> > </cf_cya>
> >
> > However, if you just HAVE to keep your users from reentering their card
#
> > every time, look at some third party solutions.  Microsoft's comes to
> mind.
> > (Okay ppl - let's pretend like we're mature and not turn this into
another
> > pathetic "why Microsoft is bad thread" - I'm just pointing out a
potential
> > technology)  I don't know how much faith I have in other company's
> security
> > infrastructures, but I'd be willing to bet that it's far better than
> > anything that I could ever hope to build.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Don Vawter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 1:46 PM
> > Subject: Best practices storing CC
> >
> >
> > > Any advice on storing credit card info?
> > >
> > >
> > > My thoughts are that it should be stored in a separate db which is not
> > > accessible via web
> > > and have cf push the info to a template behind the firewall to do the
> > actual
> > > authorization and push the results back to the main server. Does this
> make
> > > sense or am I making it too complicated (or leaving something obvious
> > out).
> > >
> > > What are recommendatsions on encyption, is DES ok or do I need
something
> > > else?
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Don
> > >
> >
> 
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