Perhaps a full version limited to 1 or 2 concurrent connections and 
including it with all of the Macromedia discs would be nice too. Just 
like Macromedia does now with all of their other offerings. If you buy 
the Flash 5 CD, you get all of the demo's for DW, Fireworks and so on.
On the Neo pages there is some mention of including Spectra, which I 
think will be a big driver of new CF installs. Just as a lot of PHP 
installs are driven my PHPNuke. It's a lot easier to justify $1500 or 
whatever the price is, for a complete product like Spectra and get 
ColdFusion as a bonus. Especially when Spectra has the Macromedia 
marketing behind it...

I think if you can walk the average Dreamweaver user through setup and 
install of CF/Spectra in 30 minutes which they then could show off to 
their bosses, then the sky is the limit.

jon
Ben Forta wrote:

>We discuss this all the time, and I will forward this thread as needed. We
>started down this road a bit with CF Express (yes, I know what its
>limitations were, etc.).
>
>No, I am not making any commitments at all, but you should at least know
>that this is being debated and discussed heavily.
>
>--- Ben
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Thomas Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 5:12 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Long Live Cold Fusion and...
>
>
>Long live Cold Fusion.
>
>One thing that I think Macromedia should do is to make a version for
> learning
>that is either given away or sold for $99.  This should be a version that
>will have
>restrictions on the ability to do create web applications that could be used
>on the internet.  Such a program would only be usable for learning.  It
>would not
>have a time limitation and would offer all of the tags and etc..  The
>program would
>have use limitations so that people won't use it to produce real world
>internet pages
>and applications.  Restricted capabilities is not the way to go if they
>block the
>ability to learn.  It should be possible to restrict the use of the
>developed programs to
>just the computer that the learning edition is installed on and by using
>the training
>program.
>
>The more people who can afford to get a learning copy of the program and a
>
>good book
>such as WACK by Ben Forta would mean more sales later on.
>

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