they do On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Thomas Smith wrote:
> Long live Cold Fusion. > > One thing that I think Macromedia should do is to make a version for > learning > that is either given away or sold for $99. This should be a version that > will have > restrictions on the ability to do create web applications that could be u sed > on the internet. Such a program would only be usable for learning. It > would not > have a time limitation and would offer all of the tags and etc.. The > program would > have use limitations so that people won't use it to produce real world > internet pages > and applications. Restricted capabilities is not the way to go if they > block the > ability to learn. It should be possible to restrict the use of the > developed programs to > just the computer that the learning edition is installed on and by using > the training > program. > > The more people who can afford to get a learning copy of the program and a > > good book > such as WACK by Ben Forta would mean more sales later on. > > > At 12/30/2001, you wrote: > >Agreed. I believe that with the merger of Allaire and Macromedia, that C F > >will become alot more mainstream than what it currently is. Macromedia h a > >s a > >huge markershare of products for web development and more people are go i > >ng > >to be introduced to it through Macromedia than what it would have been > >through Allaire. The economy sucks for everyone right now and it is a ha r > >d > >fought deal to just find employment. I do believe that the cost of CF Se r > >ver > >should be reduced though. If they reduce the cost of CF server and bundl e > > in > >studio for lets say $1500.00 then I think more people would be apt to pa y > >for it, and they would also make far more money. What makes more sense, m > >ake > >$4500 from 1000 people or make $1500 from 10,000 people? > > > > > > > > > > > >Doug > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Ben Forta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 12:59 PM > >Subject: RE: death of coldfusion > > > > > > > Mark, > > > > > > They may be part of it. Or not. Either way it needs to be taken in > >context - > > > there are far more questions from absolute beginners looking for init ia > >l > > > help on the Forums then there are posting from doomsayers - that > >definitely > > > says that folks are not just still using CF, they are also first star ti > >ng > >to > > > do so. > > > > > > I also think that part of the frustration expressed on the Forums is > > > frustration at the current economic situation in general. Lots of peo pl > >e > >are > > > looking for work, and yes, there are more ASP pages and sites out the re > >than > > > CFML pages and sites, and so by default there'll be more ASP work tha n > >CFML > > > work. > > > > > > And while this is not a formal method of measuring interest in a prod uc > >t, > >I > > > do have my own gauges that I use - hits on my site, numbers of reader s > >and > > > sites accessing my CF tips, book sales, etc. And none of those show t ha > >t > >CF > > > is dying - on the contrary. > > > > > > --- Ben > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mark Smeets [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 2:15 PM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: death of coldfusion > > > > > > > > > It's just the microsoft lovers trying to stir things up, this happens l > >ike > > > once every 6 months. Be reasonable and ask yourself would you really ki > >ll > >a > > > language that is growing this fast in popularity that is more effecti ve > >than > > > the other languages out there? (thats my opinion, I think cf is much > >better > > > than asp or php) > > > > > > Macromedia isn't incorporating CF into Dreamweaver for the past 2 ver si > >on > > > for nothing. > > > > > > FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq > > > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation � $99/Month � Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
