Ok, I have to tread carefully now, but ... There is real value in Neo, stuff all CF developers can use. For example:
* Support for Unicode - I know most developers in the USA don't pay much attention to internationalization and Unicode support, but for the record, this has been one of the most frequently heard requests. * Compiled code (instead of interpreted) - the improves performance, and also provides you with new ways to distribute code (no source, for any of you who thought CFENCODE was not secure enough this is good news indeed). * Application segregation - one apps dies or misbehaves, others keep on running. Hosting companies and IT departments have been begging for this. Not to mention access to JSP tag and libraries (and other Java bits), native XML support, the ability to access and publish Web services, a brand new (and dramatically improved) editor, and the list goes on and on. Neo is, without question, the single most significant upgrade to CF yet. So, to your question, "does it have to be new and improved" the answer is a resounding yes. First of all, developers are clamoring for this stuff, it's not just ideas we pulled from a hat, this is real and requested. And secondly, CF has been hurting a bit in corporate environments who are standardizing on infrastructure, and for them, having CF run on top of J2EE servers is very compelling (and allows us to sell CF to them). I know that most of the folks on this list could not care in the least about enterprise installations built on WebSphere or WebLogic, but a big chunk of the CF customer base (and future base) does. And finally, the analogy to Perl is flawed in that Perl does not have to compete - it is given away. Commercial software has to play by a different set of rules, and needs to provide real value and innovation constantly. --- Ben -----Original Message----- From: jon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 11:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: death of coldfusion Out of curiousity, what's the rush for NEO? Does everything always have to be NEW AND IMPROVED? (see Perl, for instance, which seems to evolve very slowly) -- jon -----Original Message----- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 4:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: death of coldfusion Ben Forta wrote: > > I also think that part of the frustration expressed on the Forums is > frustration at the current economic situation in general. And frustration with Macromedia in partcular :) Why is there no information on Neo? Sure there was something presented at the DevCon, but creating a Neo resource center with mailinglist and not presenting any news easily raises the impression that nothing is happening. It could be announced on the mailinglist that some alpha release was shipped to selected partners (if you read very carefully through all the 200+ messages you will find some indications of this on the forums), but instead there is silence. Imagine you are visiting your college buddies during the holiday season. They all have nice stories about .NET and J2EE, and all we have is some quotes about a product that some have seen but nobody has touched. Nobody likes to have to listen to the success stories of others. Jochem ______________________________________________________________________ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation � $99/Month � Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
