Dave you are right.  I am not saying I am cryptology master, I just think I
could do better than the cfencrypt.  That was my point - came out diluted
and misread, but I was basically telling this guy to not even think of
splitting the data into to tables and feel safe.  Encryption methodologies I
studied in college and then after would be my foundation for building my
own... I was on my way to a life at the NSA/etc...

Best bet is absolutely to not store your CC number.  If big BIG companies
can get ripped off with the CC numbers, then obviously hackers get  their
way regardless...

-Bill
brainbox

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 7:45 PM
Subject: RE: Best way to store credit cards in database?


> > > The problem with CFENCRYPT isn't that it's a public
> > > standard, but rather that it uses a relatively weak
> > > encryption strength (that, along with the fact that
> > > the key is probably stored somewhere within the
> > > application code or environment).
> >
> > Ditto. As I and, you, and others have mentioned... cryptography
> > isn't a game for newbies. I'm sure the author's of cfencrypt
> > thought their code was cool... but I'm just as sure that
> > serious hacker types (especially those who do it for the
> > money) were laughing their [censored] off when they ran
> > in that alg.
> >
> > I'd be willing to bet cash several of them owned :) the
> > alg within half an hour. Counting snack breaks.
>
> For some reason, I thought it simply used 56-bit DES, but then I looked at
> the docs. Yeesh!
>
> "Encrypts a string. Encrypt uses a symmetric key-based algorithm in which
> the same key is used to encrypt and decrypt a string. The security of the
> encrypted string depends on maintaining the secrecy of the key. Encrypt
uses
> an XOR-based algorithm that uses a pseudo-random 32-bit key based on a
seed
> passed by the user as a parameter to the function. The resultant data is
> UUencoded and may be as much as three times the original size."
>
> I'm filled with confidence now.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> voice: (202) 797-5496
> fax: (202) 797-5444
> 
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