What about Java Swing? I've heard it's really turning out to be a great tool for GUI 
design.

Anyone know more about this?

Nathaniel Horwitz

http://www.nathanielhorwitz.com

> yeah, Java does not suck at GUI design! As far as 
> programming interfaces go, it's the best I've seen, 
> with Pluggable Look and Feel, and robust form
> control abstractions.

I rarely see a Java GUI which I find impressive, from an end-user's
perspective - they just look like rough versions of the VB "gray-box" GUIs
from the past, and tend to be pretty slow, unresponsive and crash-prone at
that.

> The first versions of Java may have sucked, but its WAY 
> better now. Don't be close minded about Java, it runs more 
> than applets these days (the next version of ColdFusion 
> for one).

Well, yes, but there's no GUI involved there. No Swing, no AWT. And that's
where I think Java excels - as a server-side language. I don't necessarily
blame Java for the failure of its GUI components, since there's no other
really good example of truly cross-platform GUI components in common use,
but whenever I see a Java GUI, I always tend to cringe a bit.

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