The credit card companies consider transactions to be of two kinds - where
the cardholder is present at the transaction (such as when you use the card
at a restaurant or a store and can therefore sign the slip in front of the
merchant) and where the cardholder is not present (such as mailorder, phone
orders, and internet orders where there can be no signature on the slip).


If the transaction is a 'cardholder not present' type the onus is on the
merchant to prove everything.  If there's a disputed transaction, the card
company will reverse the transaction (and if at that time you have already
shipped goods away you're stuffed) and require the merchant to do a lot of
singing and dancing to prove everything and get the money back.  Trust me,
in the case of Indonesia, if this happens to you, you're screwed.


My friends usually turn business down from Indonesia.  But if they do decide
to accept an order from there, they refuse a credit card, and require the
customer to send the money by telegraphic transfer,  then they check the
balance is in their account, and then just for safety's sake, they move the
money to another account before they will pack up their goods.


Cheers,
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP WebWorks



-----Original Message-----
From: Len Conrad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: IP Address Locator

>How can you reverse a credit card transaction once it's been processed
>already? I've had credit card merchant account and have never seen this
>happen before.

I did it once, as a buyer, on a seller of $5000 Mapinfo software, in
Chicago. I just had to prove non-delivery of the product, and contact the
seller's bank, and my bank got the money back.   The bank said if the
seller then proved delivery to me, then the bank would take back money from
my account.

Len

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