Actionscript is pretty easy, it's an ECMA based language just like
Javascript, it's having to work in the Flash environment that is not very
coder friendly that is the problem imo.
I'd say it's more of an issue that coders are not artists, and don't think
in timelines. I won't ever do a drop of Flash until I can write code to draw
that widget, and move it from point a to b, or at least manipulate a widget
that was drawn in Flash...oh wait, that's SVG *cough*. However I do really
dig the new stuff in Flash MX, and I haven't looked at the demo to see if
the coding aspect of Flash has gotten any better since 5 yet...that stupid
little ActionScript box in 5 was very, well....little.

jon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Turrettini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 6:56 PM
Subject: RE: Flash Tutorials (WAS: a little about the future)


> I think its easy to understand most coldfusion tutorials because the
> language is so friggin simple and clear.  However, actionscript in flash
is
> about as confusing as it gets in my opinon so any tutorial may be
confusing.
> Either way there are some interesting ones on secretagents.com.  But you
> gotta shell out a bit.  DRE
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:31 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Flash Tutorials (WAS: a little about the future)
>
>
> Justin that's not fair.  I don't expect someone else to do everything for
> me.  But I think the resources I've been able to find fall FAR short of
> anything educational.  (But since you've mentioned flashkit.com I'll have
a
> look there.  I never saw that URL before).
>
> I haven't found that the stuff that comes in the Flash 5 documentation is
> very useful for educational purposes.  It just says do this do that,
without
> explaining why you're doing it.   So at the end you're well equipped to do
> what the documentation explains and little more.   And as I said, ALL the
> on-line things I have found have what they call tutorials and they aren't
> anything of the kind. They're examples.   Wade through the code if you can
> find the various parts, but there's nothing to explain what connects to
what
> and where the various parts of the code are controlled from.  I have found
> them an impenetrable fog for learning anything at all about connecting
flash
> and CF.
>
> For contrast, have a look at anything on Hal Helms site and see how his
> tutorials actually teach.  They actually explain things - what is
happening
> and why.   There are a host of other tutorials around in ColdFusion,  but
so
> far as I've found, not a thing about Flash.    I'd be grateful for even
ONE
> simple-to-understand TUTORIAL showing connecting a Flash movie to a CF
query
> and using the data in flash.   Once I've seen one step-by-step for making
> dynamic buttons or a dynamic nav bar or a news scroller or something  I'm
> sure I'll be able to work out the rest.  That's how I learned most of the
> things I do on the web.  But to my knowledge, there isn't one.  I'd have
> thought Macromedia would have produced such a thing by now, since they're
> going all-out to promote the dynamic uses for flash.
>
> So, there's my problem.  If you can't get started, you can't do the more
> advanced stuff.
>
> And I never said I wanted someone to hold my hand all the way to Advanced
> Flash status.  That's ridiculous, Justin.  You say there are plenty of
good
> tutorials?    Tell me about one.  (qualification:  it may well be that
> flashkit.com gives me what I need, but as I said I haven't seen that yet.
> I'll do that next).
>
> An example is NOT the same thing as a tutorial.    If I was to teach you
how
> to strip and rebuild a car engine, I wouldn't just point to a car and say
> "well there's one over there" and call that a lesson.  That's an example.
> Only people with lots of prior knowledge of car engines would be able to
> work out what to do from that.  Up till now, all the Flash material I have
> seen has been either clouded in technical jargon and incomprehensible to
me,
> or not a tutorial at all but an example instead.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Mike Kear
> Windsor, NSW, Australia
> AFP WebWorks
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Justin Waldrip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>  Subject: RE: a little about the future
>
> When I learned flash I picked up a book for reference and hit up
> flashkit.com. There are plenty of good tutorials out there. You can't
> expect to be walked completely through the learning process. You have to
> find and learn some of this stuff on your own. Otherwise everyone would
> be a flash guru.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Justin Waldrip
> Internet Technology Specialist
> CCS, Group Inc.
>

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