I think its easy to understand most coldfusion tutorials because the language is so friggin simple and clear. However, actionscript in flash is about as confusing as it gets in my opinon so any tutorial may be confusing. Either way there are some interesting ones on secretagents.com. But you gotta shell out a bit. DRE
-----Original Message----- From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:31 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Flash Tutorials (WAS: a little about the future) Justin that's not fair. I don't expect someone else to do everything for me. But I think the resources I've been able to find fall FAR short of anything educational. (But since you've mentioned flashkit.com I'll have a look there. I never saw that URL before). I haven't found that the stuff that comes in the Flash 5 documentation is very useful for educational purposes. It just says do this do that, without explaining why you're doing it. So at the end you're well equipped to do what the documentation explains and little more. And as I said, ALL the on-line things I have found have what they call tutorials and they aren't anything of the kind. They're examples. Wade through the code if you can find the various parts, but there's nothing to explain what connects to what and where the various parts of the code are controlled from. I have found them an impenetrable fog for learning anything at all about connecting flash and CF. For contrast, have a look at anything on Hal Helms site and see how his tutorials actually teach. They actually explain things - what is happening and why. There are a host of other tutorials around in ColdFusion, but so far as I've found, not a thing about Flash. I'd be grateful for even ONE simple-to-understand TUTORIAL showing connecting a Flash movie to a CF query and using the data in flash. Once I've seen one step-by-step for making dynamic buttons or a dynamic nav bar or a news scroller or something I'm sure I'll be able to work out the rest. That's how I learned most of the things I do on the web. But to my knowledge, there isn't one. I'd have thought Macromedia would have produced such a thing by now, since they're going all-out to promote the dynamic uses for flash. So, there's my problem. If you can't get started, you can't do the more advanced stuff. And I never said I wanted someone to hold my hand all the way to Advanced Flash status. That's ridiculous, Justin. You say there are plenty of good tutorials? Tell me about one. (qualification: it may well be that flashkit.com gives me what I need, but as I said I haven't seen that yet. I'll do that next). An example is NOT the same thing as a tutorial. If I was to teach you how to strip and rebuild a car engine, I wouldn't just point to a car and say "well there's one over there" and call that a lesson. That's an example. Only people with lots of prior knowledge of car engines would be able to work out what to do from that. Up till now, all the Flash material I have seen has been either clouded in technical jargon and incomprehensible to me, or not a tutorial at all but an example instead. Cheers, Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP WebWorks -----Original Message----- From: Justin Waldrip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: RE: a little about the future When I learned flash I picked up a book for reference and hit up flashkit.com. There are plenty of good tutorials out there. You can't expect to be walked completely through the learning process. You have to find and learn some of this stuff on your own. Otherwise everyone would be a flash guru. Thanks, Justin Waldrip Internet Technology Specialist CCS, Group Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: a little about the future I look forward to the day when someone - anyone - puts some kind of tutorial on the web that isn't couched in jargon. The tutorials I've tried to work through are either totally incomprehensible to me because they're expressed in jargon, or they claim to be tutorials but aren't . . . they are only examples. And you have to have extensive prior knowledge of Flash to be able to make head or tail of them. It's unusual because there is a wealth of tutorial material for beginners on ColdFusion, but no one has put anything for beginners that I've seen about flash. Is anyone aware of any beginner material on flash? (I've asked this before and was pointed towards flashcfm.com but I didn't find anything there that I would call tutorials. Only examples. "Look through them and you'll work it out" I was told. Yeah right. If you know plenty before you start. Cheers, Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP WebWorks ( p.s. with my track record, someone is now going to show me a url for somewhere I've been three times and never seen it. ) ______________________________________________________________________ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation � $99/Month � Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
