Maybe you didn't know how to write fast code in CF 5. For example, are
you using custom tags?

-Matt

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 12:13 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)
> 
> Hmm.. every code benchmark I've run says that MX (even in the
debug/beta
> stages) is faster than 5.. I'll try to post some benchmarking code
when
> I get the opportunity
> 
> ---
> Billy Cravens
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:08 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)
> 
> Anything built on top of J2EE is going to be slower on a single
machine.
> If you are looking for a fast server-side scripting language, your
> choices are PHP, CF 5, and a few niche players. If you don't mind
buying
> a bunch of machines than something based on J2EE would be the better
> choice. CFMX fits in this category.
> 
> -Matt
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:23 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)
> >
> > I for one find speed to be a major deciding factor, I really like
that
> it
> > is
> > J2EE compliant, buzzword, buzzword compliant, buzzword this, but I
can
> > tell
> > all you Macromedia guys this, if  it isn't faster, I won't be able
to
> > upgrade here. It will be a customer relations nightmare, an app that
> once
> > performed blazingly fast now stalls left and right, I can't be
having
> > that,
> > if I test out MX and it really is slower, I will have no choice, but
> to
> > invest my time and resources into another platform for the web that
> does
> > things faster. So whatever you do make this a priority, I am sure I
am
> not
> > the only person who thinks this way, heck most of the arguments
> between
> > ASP
> > and CF for the past 3 years has been that ASP is super fast and CF
is
> > super
> > slow when in actuallity they are very close to each other. If MX is
> that
> > much slower a lot of us will not be able to fight the good battle
> anymore
> > in
> > defending CF.
> >
> >
> > Robert Everland III
> > Dixon Ticonderoga
> > Web Developer Extraordinaire
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 12:03 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)
> >
> >
> > Jesse,
> >
> > Yes, subsequent requests ARE faster than initial requests.  But I
have
> to
> > say they are still painfully slow when compaired to CF 5. Slow
enough
> to
> > be
> > a non-starter for some of our aps. In addition, if you plan on
selling
> web
> > services you already have a big latency problem that you are
> constantly
> > battling.  Anything time saved on the server greatly benefits the
user
> > experience - so this is a real issue for the "brave new world".
> NET's
> > CLR
> > is blazingly fast at delivering web service content.  CFMX must
> compete
> > favorably with it to gain headway in the web services arena.
> >
> > -mk
> >
> > P.S. - yeah yeah, I know "it's not optimized".  But let's be honest,
> as a
> > rule, JSP is pretty doggy.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:39 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)
> >
> >
> > Also think about the performance that you're seeing right now.
> >
> > On first run, a CFMX page "compiles". The pages are no longer
> interpreted
> > on
> > the fly. This means your initial "First Hit" is going to take a few
> > seconds,
> > but every request after this is going to much faster.
> >
> > It's a complaint we've seen on the forums, Ie, "I just installed,
why
> is
> > the
> > admin so slow" the answer is simple, the admin is compiling itself
for
> the
> > first time. If you hit the admin after the first time, you'll note
> it's
> > much
> > snappier.
> >
> > The "initial compile" bump is being examined and worked on, but it
> does
> > not
> > change the fact that the pages are being COMPILED, not interpreted
as
> > presvious versions.
> >
> > As for Matt's comment about JSP, this should not be the case in the
> end. I
> > know I for one want CFMX to be as fast, and faster still, then CF5.
> This
> > is
> > our goal.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:39 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: CFMX performance (was RE: CF MX)
> > >
> > >
> > > > So, in a small company like mine, where I have maybe 5
> > > > people using CF at once on an intranet application, (I
> > > > also use CF from a shared host) there is no advantage
> > > > to going to MX? I'm still waiting for a great reason
> > > > to upgrade to CF 5.0.
> > >
> > > Sure, there are lots of reasons! They're not necessarily
performance
> > > reasons, though:
> > >
> > > 1. The ability to publish and consume web services,
> > > 2. Verity K2 (since you're not even on CF 5 yet) is much
> > > faster than the
> > > previous version of Verity,
> > > 3. A working Advanced Security interface for developers
> > > (Sandbox security),
> > > 4. Charting,
> > > 5. and much, much more! CFCs, UDFs (again, since you're not
> > > on CF 5) ...
> > >
> > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> > > http://www.figleaf.com/
> > > voice: (202) 797-5496
> > > fax: (202) 797-5444
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
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