I've thought about creating and distributing standalone apps like you describe using 
CF Express. If Macromedia were to do something like that (or even a nominal fee per 
license for mass installations), then I would totally agree with you. However, CF 
Express is feature-poor and Macromedia has not made any declarations about reduced 
licensing fees for purposes you've described. It's safe to say that you've got a great 
idea, but it's impractical at present (and probably future).

Bill

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/1/02 11:15 AM >>>
On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, at 10:25  AM, BILL BROWN wrote:

> The only downside being that the CFMX license will make the cost of the 
> software prohibitive. Imagine tacking on thousands of dollars to the 
> price of your development.
>
> It's possible, though not likely.
>
> Bill
>

Maybe so, maybe no... could be a variant of the developer license: 
multiple, single-use installs. This could setup to abet rather than 
replace server-side installs of CF.

MM (and others) will need to address this same  issue with their server 
offerings.(JRun in MM's case).  As I understand, with these you can 
develop Java Apps... presumably these could be Java server apps, Java 
rich-client Apps, or Java standalone apps  where Swing (or somesuch) 
replaces the browser interface.

The key to making all this profitable for MM, and MM's customers is to 
provide added value server-side with the  consolidated interaction of 
function and information.

a simple example:

XYZ gifts mass mails a CD ala AOL (yech).

This CD contains XYZ's catalog and an ordering app (simple shopping 
cart).  The user can browse the catalog and build multiple orders off 
line.

Once ready to order, the customer presses the "Execute Order"... 
connection is made to the server,  The rich client sends  it's order, an 
XML packet, to the server... the server returns any specials, 
substitutions, etc and processes the order.

This type of application is practical for distributors placing orders, 
reporters filing stories, etc...  or any of the applications where 
continuous connection to a server is not practical, necessary or 
desirable... for whatever reasons.

Dick

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