On that note, I would think it'd be in MM's best interests to develop a
method to do this - maybe the Developer Edition? with proper licensing? A
version which is in single IP mode immediatly upon install??

I can't help but think how if a tool like this existed, it would get used in
a large(er) number of places, thereby promoting sales of the Professional
and Enterprise versions.  After all, business folks would be caught by the
"wow" factor, or "I want to do that too" phenomena, boosting interest (and
indirectly, sales) in CF.

My thoughts, but I closed my one man business cuz I realized I didn't have
what it takes when it comes to marketing and accounting.  So, maybe I'm
blowing chunks with this idea....

Shawn Grover

-----Original Message-----
From: BILL BROWN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:22 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Distributing self-contained CFMX apps


I've thought about creating and distributing standalone apps like you
describe using CF Express. If Macromedia were to do something like that (or
even a nominal fee per license for mass installations), then I would totally
agree with you. However, CF Express is feature-poor and Macromedia has not
made any declarations about reduced licensing fees for purposes you've
described. It's safe to say that you've got a great idea, but it's
impractical at present (and probably future).

Bill

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/1/02 11:15 AM >>>
On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, at 10:25  AM, BILL BROWN wrote:

> The only downside being that the CFMX license will make the cost of the
> software prohibitive. Imagine tacking on thousands of dollars to the
> price of your development.
>
> It's possible, though not likely.
>
> Bill
>

Maybe so, maybe no... could be a variant of the developer license:
multiple, single-use installs. This could setup to abet rather than
replace server-side installs of CF.

MM (and others) will need to address this same  issue with their server
offerings.(JRun in MM's case).  As I understand, with these you can
develop Java Apps... presumably these could be Java server apps, Java
rich-client Apps, or Java standalone apps  where Swing (or somesuch)
replaces the browser interface.

The key to making all this profitable for MM, and MM's customers is to
provide added value server-side with the  consolidated interaction of
function and information.

a simple example:

XYZ gifts mass mails a CD ala AOL (yech).

This CD contains XYZ's catalog and an ordering app (simple shopping
cart).  The user can browse the catalog and build multiple orders off
line.

Once ready to order, the customer presses the "Execute Order"...
connection is made to the server,  The rich client sends  it's order, an
XML packet, to the server... the server returns any specials,
substitutions, etc and processes the order.

This type of application is practical for distributors placing orders,
reporters filing stories, etc...  or any of the applications where
continuous connection to a server is not practical, necessary or
desirable... for whatever reasons.

Dick


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