Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! <grin>)

Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report
on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things,
and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.

Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden".. And
I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we
gain from this list, and ultimately his support.

Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if
anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do
with it.. I'm sure.

Just my .02



| -----Original Message-----
| From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
| Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:22 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
| 
| 
| Personally, I think that people would be more willing to 
| donate if there was some kind of indication as to the toal 
| amount needed
| (itemized) and an indicator of the amount donated.  Having 
| some kind of meter would be helpful.  Something like:
| 
| $10,000 ------ Our goal
| |
| |
| $7500
| |
| |
| $5000
| |
| ------ $3500 Donated so far
| |
| $2500
| |
| |
| --
| 
| Also, a list of the top 10 or so contributors would be good.
| 
| This way, potential donors could get an idea about what the 
| goal is, how much is needed for the goal and the current status.   The
| top contributors list would be a good way to thank the people 
| that donated the most.
| 
| Regards,
| 
| Howie
| 
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:14 PM
| Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
| 
| 
| > Ok.. Putting on my "board of directors" hat...
| >
| > So, if I read things properly, we're (at best) about 3700, and at 
| > worst (if you figure 1/2 are simply not active) 900.
| >
| > To be conservative, we're looking at 3/4 of the actual 
| subscriber base 
| > (not NNTP) as "potential donors".  That makes it about 1400.
| >
| > After all is said and done, you'll need more than $5000, 
| even with the 
| > wonderful generosity of some who are donating systems 
| (thanks guys!!). 
| > I'm guessing more like $6500.
| >
| > Simple math says...
| >
| > 6500 / 1400 = $4.64 per subscriber.
| >
| > Reality is, that's a "perfect world" scenario.  But it also 
| shows that 
| > it's not a huge issue to overcome.
| >
| > So, I will offer a challenge to all of whom are able to do 
| so.  Donate 
| > $200 to the fund to build up this list.  If you cannot donate $200, 
| > then donate whatever you can.  However, if we cut the 
| number above in 
| > 1/2, it's about $10 each.  If you cut it into 1/4, it's about $20.  
| > So, I'm willing to pay for 40 of the 1400... Anyone else?
| >
| > Let's move this forward quickly, and support the person/entity that 
| > has tirelessly supported us.  He deserves it.
| >
| > Check's on the way Michael, payable to you.
| >
| >
| > Lee Fuller
| > Chief Technical Officer
| > PrimeDNA / AAA Web Hosting Corporations
| >
| >
| 
| 
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