No question that the involvement in an Apache project is good for everyone
involved.

And now that CF tags are J2EE, you can simply decompile CFHTTP, tweak it,
recompile it, and you're in business :)

I started working with server-side Java because ASP had no reliable
equivalent to CFHTTP for SSL connections (not that CFHTTP is that great for
SSL either). Boy, try to integrate an SSL servlet and ASP for a bit and then
you appreciate CFMX being built on Java....

john paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 9:17 PM
Subject: RE: Need help with CFMX/ASP.NET comparison...


> > > In any case, I think the fact that they're using Axis means
> > > they're more serious about it than if they just wrote their
> > > own web services stuff, all by themselves - I've never been
> > > impressed with CFHTTP, for example.
> >
> > Axis IS their own web service stuff. Two guys from Macromedia.
> > Two from IBM. OK, so its only 50% their stuff.... :)
>
> Yes, I'm aware of the Axis developers' employers:
> http://xml.apache.org/axis/who.html
>
> However, I still think there's a difference. Let's say that you start some
> nifty open-source project. Now, while you're employed by TransitionPoint,
> you might be able to convince them to use it within their new product, or
> they might convince you to start the project in the first place. However,
> you're still personally invested in the success of your personal project,
> and you'll probably be so even after you leave TransitionPoint. Or, even
if
> you aren't, others can get involved, because it's a volunteer project.
>
> Who's invested in the success of CFHTTP? Who outside of MM can contribute
to
> it? It's only been three versions ago that we all clamored for a bunch of
> things in it. I wanted two things since CF 3.1 - the ability to do raw
> posts, and the ability to manipulate headers for all requests. We're not
> talking rocket science here. We're talking about building simple strings
of
> ASCII text and sending them to a socket. What's so damned hard about it?
> Now, I'm not really upset about this, since I can always find and use a
> replacement, but I think it's a useful point for comparison.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> voice: (202) 797-5496
> fax: (202) 797-5444
> 
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