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I'm seeing some weird errors in my CF Mail.log

Error #1
"Error","TID=192","07/01/02","12:13:42","Failed to send the spooled mail
file, C:\CFUSION\MAIL\spool\6B6.cfmail. SMTP server replied "RCPT first
(#5.5.1)" Moved file to
C:\CFUSION\MAIL\undelivr\953.cfmail."

Error#2
"Error","TID=192","07/01/02","12:40:51","Failed to send the spooled mail
file, C:\CFUSION\MAIL\spool\A63.cfmail. SMTP server replied "See
http://pobox.com/~djb/docs/smtplf.html."; Moved file to
C:\CFUSION\MAIL\undelivr\A66.cfmail."

I believe that the first error message is due the fact an automatic process
is sending a email without a repicipient,
    x-cf-to:

I did some research on error #2, is was saying that the message contained
"Bare LF's", Bare Linefeeds instead of "CR LF's" carriage return line feeds.
Those messages weren't violating 822bis section 2.3, which specifically
prohibits all bare LFs.   I don't know why the messages would contain those?
The body of the CFMail is from a text area box?

We're running CF 4.5.2 on NT 4 SP6, the mailserver is QMail on Red Hat 7.1

Thanks!
 Will





 We are running QMail on a RedHat Linux 7.1 and use it to relay our CFMail
messages through it.  We only send a few hunred a day thro

----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 1:33 PM
Subject: RE: Mass emailing and drive space


> CF5?  Yes you would need aprox 100000k of drive space.  20,000 messages is
a
> whole lot to send using CF though.  There ARE other options available to
> you.  CF is not a mail Server.  I would definitely not recommend sending
> 1mil emails without a very good strategy for pacing the delivery.  Using
one
> CF5 server, assuming you paced the spooling correctly and tweaked the
> spooler interval in the admin, it would take approximately 42 hours to
relay
> all those messages off the server to the mailserver.
>
> Here are some stats for CF5 that may be of use to you...  The spool has a
> hard upper limit of 65536 of # of message which CF can write to it.  The
> limit is based on CF's usage of the hex charset to generate 4 character
> identifiers for each message (16^4=65536).  It also can only send a max of
> 400 messages per minute, though I have never seen it hit that, and by
> default sends only 100 per minute.  This means that once the spool gets
> "full", even at it's fastest rate, it would take just over 163 minutes (2
> hours, 43 minutes) to empty the spool (65536/400=163.84 minutes).  At it's
> default rate, it would take 655.36 minutes (10 hours, 55 minutes) to empty
> the spool (65536/100=655.36).
>
> I have had success loading IIS's SMTP service onto the CF server and
writing
> messages directly to it's outbound spool.  You set it up purely as a relay
> to your "real" mailserver and let it do the heavy lifting.  The files
relay
> at an incredibly fast rate that way, but you can still run into hard drive
> space limitations.
>
> Another alternative is just to not use CF for this task.  CF wasn't
created
> or intended to be used for this purpose (sending a million emails), and
> isn't designed for it.  There are plenty of other more suitable round pegs
> out there for you to choose from.
>
> -Cameron
>
> -----------------
> Cameron Childress
> Sumo Consulting Inc.
> ---
> cell:  678-637-5072
> aim:   cameroncf
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 12:21 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Mass emailing and drive space
> >
> >
> > I was curious about mass emailing and drive space.  If I do a
> > mailing of
> > 20,000 emails and the email is 5k do I need 100000k of drive
> > space so CF has
> > enough room to create every piece of email in the
> > cfusion/mail/spool dir?
> >
> > If so, what if I had to send out 1million emails with the
> > email being 5k
> > would I need 5000000k of space on the drive?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jeff
> >
> 
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