Dale,

I have to stick up for Geoff here, because he's not one to beat his own gong, but he is actually one of those rare individuals (like the user group managers, authors of open source software, and people who post helpful responses to cfaussie :-) who believes in supporting the community without expectation of immediate reward and has some initiative to do something about it instead of waiting "cargo cult" style for support to arrive from somewhere else.

I know for a fact that Webdu generally breaks even with sponsorships and conference fees, but if you took into account the hundred of hours it takes the Daemon staff to organise the conference each year it would be a complete and utter loss maker.  The fact that Daemon continue to host the conference despite this is a huge kudos for Geoff, Vivianne, Julie and the team, and has earned them genuine respect from Adobe and other companies in the community.  

It's up to us, the community, to make things like this conference happen, either by organising them ourselves or supporting those that do.  Speaking for myself, this is why RocketBoots has been a silver sponsor of Webdu since we started (even when we were only a few months old) and why we'll continue to sponsor the conference.  

BTW, the "profit share with the speaker" is specific to the workshops held on day 0 - the speakers have to pay their own way to the conference and allowing them to charge for workshops helps them recover some of (usually not all of) their expenses and for Daemon to pay for training venue hire.

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Robin Hilliard


On 11/10/2006, at 4:29 PM, Dale Fraser wrote:

Right,

 

A big event run by a commercial company, not for profit?

 

Sounds like a load of crap. Just because it doesn’t make a profit isn’t the same as it being NFP.

 

I don’t see any references anywhere on the site to it being NFP which is normally splashed everywhere when it is.

 

One quote from the website “Our plan is to profit share with the speaker”.

Regards
Dale Fraser

http://dale.fraser.id.au


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