Scott, I think we need to wait and see how they plan this, my thoughts are more on a tight repository because of the more upto date builds. Could be wrong, but if anyone wanted to branch out then they would be hitting a merge nightmare.
But guess we need to wait and see... On 4/26/07, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I can see a lot of positives about Adobe's move in this regard, > suffice to say some interesting thoughts popped into my head for > CFMX'ers especially well anyone for that matter. > > Here's the thing I did wonder though today, what if Bluedragon + > WebORB + CFEclipse folks go together and formed an OS alliance. > > Now it gets interesting and not for Microsoft but Adobe... > > :) > > Immediate thoughts on the matter > > - Code-forking from compiler to frameworks > - Adobe is transparent, which can be an awesome thing but it could > bite them on the butt if there is too many moving pieces in this space > (it does promote healthy competition though). > - Could de-value their Server-side offerings, given Open AMF & Red5 > projects exist ( could be wrong). > - Initially appears to validate Silverlight's existence (ie those whom > love a good romance novel may end going the route "Flash Killer > reaction, Adobe announces OS version of FLEX in last minute hopes to > combat Microsoft" - not saying that's true but boy it would sell those > click-thrus hehehe (why let a lie get in the way of a good story eh!) > - Entry barrier got easier, but the playing field still hasn't changed > (ramp-up in learning FLEX, tools to support the language and Flash > Player itself is still closed off - although they did hint it may get > OS but hints could be a stimulation trigger only). > > + Developers have more control over their own destiny > + Developers will have opportunity to bend and sculpt Flex to suite > their own specific needs (ie WebORB could really do some interesting > things now). > + Microsoft for example could use this to bend and twist Flash into > Webparts for those whom prefer Flash etc (could). > + Open source movement saves a kitten today (for every day large > companies don't go Open Source, 1x Kitten dies). > + Adobe have now made their intentions clear with FLEX, Enterprise or > bust. They can't sustain both Web & Enterprise market with FLEX, so > it's easier to put a post-it note on the side of this and say "you do > it" meanwhile, over in the Enterprise space there's a stronger focus > on building that initiative (which means good for Enterprise folks > whom see value in Adobe's offerings as they won't be distracted now). > > *shrug* > > I can see both positive and negatives, I'd simply say "With time, > comes life but equally comes ageing" (ie meaning it could be a > non-event or a milestone event.. time..just time...) > > > > On 4/26/07, Angus Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You're right Andrew. Not all the source was available, rpc for one. Also > you > > can't currently recompile the framework if you want to strip out debug > for > > instance. so i guess we'll be able to do that soon. > > > > > > On 26/04/07, Andrew Muller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Angus > > > > > > You're quite correct about a relationship between Flex and ColdFusion > > > sales. I interviewed Tim Buntel at MAX last year for BuilderAU and he > > > told me then that CF sales had been helped by Flex. Scorpio will > > > offer even better Flex support so if you're building frontends in Flex > > > and you want to connect to data one easy choice will be ColdFusion. > > > > > > Andrew > > > > > > On 26/04/07, Angus Johnson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Ok here's my take... > > > > > > > > It's really not unexpected. The SDK source was provided from day > one, > > this > > > > at least makes it official. No more concerns about IP when building > > custom > > > > components. > > > > > > > > From a Coldfusion perspective? > > > > > > > > Learn Flex / Actionscript as of yesterday. There's going to be an > > explosion > > > > in the number of sexy drag and drop UI components. Coldfusion front > ends > > in > > > > html are going to seem ho hum at best. (Even if they are uber cool > > > > ajax/dhtml). > > > > > > > > I see Coldfusion server sales picking up as Flex/AS3 cuts into php, > asp, > > > > other markets. This is a natural flow on from a bigger slice of the > web > > > > technology pie that Adobe will reap. > > > > > > > > New functionality will focus on server side integration eg email and > > > > database servers not front end. Front end = Flex / Flash. > > > > > > > > CF may continue to have a role in document management ie, search > engine > > safe > > > > but I seriously doubt that this one wont be better handled via > Flex/AS > > > > interfaces as well. Interesting to see how Adobe works in pdf > handling. > > > > > > > > Flex Data Services / Live Cycle Data Services will be the bridge > between > > CF > > > > and Flex more so than today. > > > > > > > > Don't even get me started on how Apollo will change things. I > suspect > > that > > > > it will be open sourced as well. > > > > > > > > While I would like CF to be open source I don't see it going that > way. > > Sorry > > > > Andrew :) > > > > > > > > CF will continue on, bigger market share but more enterprise back > end in > > > > nature. > > > > > > > > How's that? > > > > Angus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 26/04/07, Andrew Scott < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Barry, > > > > > > > > > > My first reaction, what date is it again oh wow its past April > 1st:-) > > > > > > > > > > My second reaction, after I picked myself of the floor, that is a > very > > > > bold > > > > > and very strategic move by Adobe on this. My thoughts are that it > > would be > > > > > to compete with Blend / WPF / silverlight or whatever they damn > call > > it > > > > > these days. > > > > > > > > > > But what a move... Please pinch me when they do this for CF *lol* > > > > > > > > > > But to be honest I think that even though Flex has a strong > following, > > > > > people are really adopting open source even more and this would be > a > > great > > > > > example of a product that will endeavour to survive past its due > date, > > if > > > > > there ever was one:-) And people are going to feel like they are > > shaping > > > > its > > > > > future, as well as getting bug fixes released quickly. > > > > > > > > > > Great move Adobe, absolutely fantastic is all I can say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andrew Scott > > > > > Senior Coldfusion Developer > > > > > Aegeon Pty. Ltd. > > > > > www.aegeon.com.au > > > > > Phone:+613 8676 4223 > > > > > Mobile: 0404 998 273 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > On > > > > Behalf > > > > > Of Barry Beattie > > > > > Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2007 3:55 PM > > > > > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com > > > > > Subject: [cfaussie] What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex > now > > Open > > > > > Source'd] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, Flex has been open-sourced... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.onflex.org/ted/2007/04/flex-goes-open-source-mpl.php > > > > > > > > > > what's it mean for us CF people? > > > > > > > > > > thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > b > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Andrew Muller > > > http://www.webqem.com > > > > > > linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/1/151/905 > > > > > > > > > Mobile: +61 (0) 409 721 701 > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Regards, > Scott Barnes > http://www.mossyblog.com > > > > -- Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. 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