I probably shouldn't weigh in on this given my employer but ... Coldfusion isn't dead, and whilst CF developers vs .NET/PHP/ROR/JSP still out number them, suffice to say it's still an effective / productive language. Coldfusion 8 will stimulate some more growth and i think you'll probably see more focus in the interoperability discussion even more so now then ever.
I think it still has a lot more maturity yet to go, as despite CFML being a very easy accessible language for developers to use and gain productivity gains, it's a reality that folks want to do more OO with it then what's currently being served. I like Microsoft's attitude at times, when they use (not always but you can see it at times) "who are we to judge" attitude. I'd like to see Adobe provide access to interfaces, method overloading and what not for future releases as if there is more open ended approach to the language, who knows you folks may trigger something in the creative input that could stimulate further growth? Personally, i'll drink from the firehose here at MSFT, but I keep CF installed at home as i'm not about to throw all those years of mastering the language down the tube? (there is life after Microsoft). I'm quite excited about CF8 to be honest, .NET access gave me a whole new sandpit to play in. That being said, you're effectively dealing with managed code or has someone once said to me today at lunch (CF`er) "JIT on a JIT". I think the right ingredients are still there, it's so close you can almost taste it and i can see a number of ways you could dramatically improve Coldfusion to do many more things then what's on offer today ... just needs a nudge in the right direction is all. CF should be free to be honest. It's to late in the game to charge, ASP is free, PHP/ROR free, JSP even Free? CF? I say this as not to raise the flag of "Anti-Adobe" or any crap like that, I simply think it's getting so damn close you can almost taste it :P Coldfusion isn't about Zero-Sum game? in that in order for others to succeed they must steal one of you folks away? thats stupid. As i'd wager all on here at least have minimum 2 languages under their belt (CF + ....).. most i'd say are looking to expand further into Java, so todays CF`er could very well be tommorow's Java Developer (dare I say, .NET developer aswell). now returning you back to your regular broadcasting station... On 5/31/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Barry, > > I had something that sounds exactly like that also. > > Regards > Dale Fraser > > http://dalefraser.blogspot.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Barry Beattie > Sent: Thursday, 31 May 2007 5:05 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfuson is dead - why did no one tell me > > > > 2) You don't like your code meshed with your layout? Are you serious on > that > > statement, name one language that doesn't do this? At least with > Coldfusion > > it is a little more readable tham PHP, JSP etc. > > Andrew, that's very easy to do with coldfusion. At my last job that > was the whole idea: the humble custom tags everywhere as taglibs. > NOTE: this is Coldfusion dynamic layouts and controls seperated from > the logic and processing. > > the pages actually ended up looking like a mxml (flex) file but I was > using ASP.NET's code-behind to model the framework on. > > the code looked beau-ti-ful... a true joy to write. > > > > > > > > -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
