Hi Charlie,

Thank you kindly for this.  I was actually in the process of working this  
out for myself because I was sure it could be done because I'd seen Derby  
embedded in web applications running under Tomcat before and was certain  
it would also run with CF.  I had actually got as far as getting the  
connection to succesfully verify, but appreciate you posting the blog  
entry and other links.  The 1-minute Derby Query Manager in particular is  
going to be a massive help. :-)

All the best,
Andrew.


On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:42:10 +1000, charlie arehart  
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Hi Andrew, yes, you could implement Derby in embedded mode in CF 7, or as
> you note, you could instead run it in its server mode and have a CF DSN
> point to that. It's just that for CF 7, it's not provided for you by  
> Adobe
> but instead you need to go get it from the Derby site, and then to sue  
> the
> embedded mode you'd need to point CF's classpath at the derby directory.
>
> Fortunately, there's an article that was done during the CF8 beta and  
> while
> it doesn't specifically mention installing it for CF7, it does talk about
> how to get and install it (even for CF8) because the version embedded in  
> CF
> is a little old. There's also at least one blog entry on the topic of  
> using
> Derby with CF7:
> http://nagpals.com/blog/post.cfm/installing-apache-derby-database-on-coldfus
> ionmx-7-0-2
>
> Once installed, things really work the same way in CF 7 as in CF 8,  
> whether
> using the embedded or network server. The difference is simply that Adobe
> embedded the needed jars within CF (both in terms of the files in
> directories within CF and in terms of pointing CFs classpath at those
> directories so that a call to an embedded DB just "works" automatically.)
>
> Hope that's helpful.
>
> Some will know that I'm also a bit of an evangelist about Derby for  
> CFers.
> Besides a talk I did at Max (link to the recording at
> http://www.carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2009/3/2/using_derby_video),  
> I
> also have a resource page at
> http://www.carehart.org/resourcelists/derby_for_CFers/. There's also a  
> Derby
> group (kind of languished) on the CF community site:
> http://www.coldfusioncommunity.org/group/derby.
>
> /charlie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On  
> Behalf
> Of Andrew
> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 1:16 AM
> To: cfaussie
> Subject: [cfaussie] Apache Derby & CF7
>
>
> Hi,
>
> As I understand it, CF8 has derby embedded (although as yet I haven't
> used it).  Is it possible to embed a derby database inside a CF7 app?
>
> Or alternatively, if I start derby in server mode, and create a JDBC
> connection to it from CF7, that'll work won't it?
>
> I'd try this all out myself but I'm a bit "time poor" at the moment.
> If anyone has gone through the process and can tell me if it'll work
> or otherwise, that would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards,
> Andrew.
>
>
>
> >



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