actually the 407 is the ex GST price, so it's even worse. (GST downunder is 10%)

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Mark Mandel <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yeah, I agree.
>
> The upgrade price is not as bad - AUD$148.75 (excluding GST), compared to
> USD$109.00
>
> Still a hike, given the currency atm, but at least it's not totally
> exorbitant.
>
> Mark
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Kai Koenig <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I'm consistently unhappy about that myself and it comes up with every
>> release of anything from Adobe outside the US and the realm of the USD
>> pricing. To create a fair comparison you'd have to add AU GST though, e.g.
>> you're comparing against AUD 370 and not 407.
>>
>> AUD 370 is still way too expensive from a consumer's point of view
>> compared to the current exchange rate (particularly because there's no
>> shipping involved etc etc etc) - but keep in mind that global corporates
>> have to plan with certain exchange rates for funding and budgeting stuff.
>> Part of that can be hedged, certainly, but not all of it. It's particularly
>> bad in AU and NZ because of the current badly unnatural strengths of our
>> currencies - a AUD100 difference between the 274 and 370 is a bit steep
>> though after all.
>>
>> I said it on Twitter recently when the CS 5.5 pricing was announced - for
>> a few of the CS 5.5. products it's cheaper to fly from NZ (prob also from AU
>> but I haven't checked) to LA or San Francisco, stay a night, buy CS 5.5
>> there in a retail shop and come back home with the software in your luggage
>> and pay customs and GST for it in your country. Also gives you frequent
>> flyer miles, status, an included seat for a return overnight flights and
>> free food :-)
>>
>> Obviously not worth it for only CFB 2 and the AUD100 off - but in case
>> you're going to the US anyway... :)
>>
>> Cheers
>> Kai
>>
>>
>> > the pricing is a bloody outrage
>> >
>> > $299 USD == $274 AUD, but they list it as $407 AUD
>> >
>> > FFS adobe!
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Mark Mandel <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Scott Thornton
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> Do you guys actually use CF builder?
>> >>
>> >> I use CFB every day, and have done since it first came out.
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> I wanted to give proper debugging another go, installed CF builder 1
>> >>> three
>> >>> weeks ago and attempted to get started.
>> >>
>> >> When you say 'proper debugging', do you mean step debugging or just
>> >> showing
>> >> the coldfusion debug output ?
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> To be fair, its an environment that I am not famaliar with, but it
>> >>> seems
>> >>> so slow, so hard to do anything in it, I have so many questions and
>> >>> can't
>> >>> find the answers.
>> >>
>> >> Slow doing what exactly?
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> For example:
>> >>> My local test site start page is
>> >>> http://127.0.0.1/my_site/password/password.cfm, if I view this page in
>> >>> IE I
>> >>> can see my debugging output and know its going to the correct page
>> >>> based on
>> >>> the DSN and settings, but the FireFox or IE view ( the tabs next to
>> >>> the
>> >>> source button) open a page without debugging and I am really not sure
>> >>> what
>> >>> or where the data is coming from.
>> >>
>> >> I never use these tabs, so I have no idea ;o)
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> The copy Preview URL option returns
>> >>> "my_site/Password/sb_password.cfm"..
>> >>> but what server? It looks like its pointing to the settings\DSN that
>> >>> retrieve my live database, rather then my test database that I want.
>> >>
>> >> Again, not sure - but I would expect it has to do with which server you
>> >> have
>> >> it configured to. Right click on your project, and go into the
>> >> ColdFusion
>> >> properties and see what the configuration settings are.
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Also I have managed to close some of the tabs within the ( lets say
>> >>> Snippets view), how do I get them back? better yet, can I "reset" the
>> >>> coldfusion perspective entirely?
>> >>
>> >> You can customize the ColdFusion (or any other) perspective as much as
>> >> you
>> >> would like.
>> >>
>> >> If you want to add any View: Window > Show View > Other
>> >> Will give you the full list of views you can add to your perspective.
>> >>
>> >> If you want to reset your perspective, I believe: Window > Reset
>> >> Perspective
>> >> will do the job you want.
>> >>
>> >> HTH
>> >>
>> >> Mark
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> >>> Behalf Of Chris Velevitch
>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2011 2:39 PM
>> >>> To: [email protected]; [email protected];
>> >>> [email protected]; AirAussie; Flexaussie
>> >>> Subject: [cfaussie] Coldfusion Builder 2 is now available to buy or
>> >>> try
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-builder.html
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