Yeah, but we should all be able to claim GST right? It's a work expense. Mark
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Zac Spitzer <zac.spit...@gmail.com> wrote: > actually the 407 is the ex GST price, so it's even worse. (GST downunder is > 10%) > > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Mark Mandel <mark.man...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yeah, I agree. > > > > The upgrade price is not as bad - AUD$148.75 (excluding GST), compared to > > USD$109.00 > > > > Still a hike, given the currency atm, but at least it's not totally > > exorbitant. > > > > Mark > > > > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Kai Koenig <k...@koeni.de> wrote: > >> > >> I'm consistently unhappy about that myself and it comes up with every > >> release of anything from Adobe outside the US and the realm of the USD > >> pricing. To create a fair comparison you'd have to add AU GST though, > e.g. > >> you're comparing against AUD 370 and not 407. > >> > >> AUD 370 is still way too expensive from a consumer's point of view > >> compared to the current exchange rate (particularly because there's no > >> shipping involved etc etc etc) - but keep in mind that global corporates > >> have to plan with certain exchange rates for funding and budgeting > stuff. > >> Part of that can be hedged, certainly, but not all of it. It's > particularly > >> bad in AU and NZ because of the current badly unnatural strengths of our > >> currencies - a AUD100 difference between the 274 and 370 is a bit steep > >> though after all. > >> > >> I said it on Twitter recently when the CS 5.5 pricing was announced - > for > >> a few of the CS 5.5. products it's cheaper to fly from NZ (prob also > from AU > >> but I haven't checked) to LA or San Francisco, stay a night, buy CS 5.5 > >> there in a retail shop and come back home with the software in your > luggage > >> and pay customs and GST for it in your country. Also gives you frequent > >> flyer miles, status, an included seat for a return overnight flights and > >> free food :-) > >> > >> Obviously not worth it for only CFB 2 and the AUD100 off - but in case > >> you're going to the US anyway... :) > >> > >> Cheers > >> Kai > >> > >> > >> > the pricing is a bloody outrage > >> > > >> > $299 USD == $274 AUD, but they list it as $407 AUD > >> > > >> > FFS adobe! > >> > > >> > > >> > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Mark Mandel <mark.man...@gmail.com> > >> > wrote: > >> >> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Scott Thornton > >> >> <scott.thorn...@hnehealth.nsw.gov.au> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Hi, > >> >>> > >> >>> Do you guys actually use CF builder? > >> >> > >> >> I use CFB every day, and have done since it first came out. > >> >> > >> >>> > >> >>> I wanted to give proper debugging another go, installed CF builder 1 > >> >>> three > >> >>> weeks ago and attempted to get started. > >> >> > >> >> When you say 'proper debugging', do you mean step debugging or just > >> >> showing > >> >> the coldfusion debug output ? > >> >> > >> >>> > >> >>> To be fair, its an environment that I am not famaliar with, but it > >> >>> seems > >> >>> so slow, so hard to do anything in it, I have so many questions and > >> >>> can't > >> >>> find the answers. > >> >> > >> >> Slow doing what exactly? > >> >> > >> >>> > >> >>> For example: > >> >>> My local test site start page is > >> >>> http://127.0.0.1/my_site/password/password.cfm, if I view this page > in > >> >>> IE I > >> >>> can see my debugging output and know its going to the correct page > >> >>> based on > >> >>> the DSN and settings, but the FireFox or IE view ( the tabs next to > >> >>> the > >> >>> source button) open a page without debugging and I am really not > sure > >> >>> what > >> >>> or where the data is coming from. > >> >> > >> >> I never use these tabs, so I have no idea ;o) > >> >> > >> >>> > >> >>> The copy Preview URL option returns > >> >>> "my_site/Password/sb_password.cfm".. > >> >>> but what server? It looks like its pointing to the settings\DSN that > >> >>> retrieve my live database, rather then my test database that I want. > >> >> > >> >> Again, not sure - but I would expect it has to do with which server > you > >> >> have > >> >> it configured to. Right click on your project, and go into the > >> >> ColdFusion > >> >> properties and see what the configuration settings are. > >> >> > >> >>> > >> >>> Also I have managed to close some of the tabs within the ( lets say > >> >>> Snippets view), how do I get them back? better yet, can I "reset" > the > >> >>> coldfusion perspective entirely? > >> >> > >> >> You can customize the ColdFusion (or any other) perspective as much > as > >> >> you > >> >> would like. > >> >> > >> >> If you want to add any View: Window > Show View > Other > >> >> Will give you the full list of views you can add to your perspective. > >> >> > >> >> If you want to reset your perspective, I believe: Window > Reset > >> >> Perspective > >> >> will do the job you want. > >> >> > >> >> HTH > >> >> > >> >> Mark > >> >> > >> >>> > >> >>> Cheers, > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> -----Original Message----- > >> >>> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] > On > >> >>> Behalf Of Chris Velevitch > >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2011 2:39 PM > >> >>> To: ap...@googlegroups.com; cfaussie@googlegroups.com; > >> >>> flashaus...@googlegroups.com; AirAussie; Flexaussie > >> >>> Subject: [cfaussie] Coldfusion Builder 2 is now available to buy or > >> >>> try > >> >>> > >> >>> http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-builder.html > >> >>> > >> >>> -- > >> >>> Chris > >> >>> -- > >> >>> Chris Velevitch > >> >>> Manager - 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