my disaster plan is an open ended ticket to mexico! :)  kidding

bi-daily backups etc....

The thing is even with all those backup plans it just adds more to the
costs of running in a cloud.

On Sep 8, 12:50 pm, Barry Beattie <barry.beat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Steve:
>
> what's the Data Center's/your's disaster recovery plan?**
>
> How critical is it for you to deliver, say, 99.5% (or whatever in your
> SLA) uptime to your customers?
>
> no criticism, not having a go, just curious if these are factors to
> consider (what you've got Vs what EC2 can do for you).
>
> me: no affil/bias either way.
>
> B
>
> ** IIRC, there were a couple of P-o-P's inside the WTC ... until Sept
> 11, that is (it's all about managing risk... and sometimes mitigating
> all the risk just costs too much to be competitive in business)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Steve Onnis <st...@cfcentral.com.au> wrote:
> > That's just it though.
>
> > I own all of my hardware outright, so the only costs at the moment for
> > us is the data centre costs which current is a little over 2k a month
> > and includes 100 Gb of data. I have full control of security,
> > firewalls, the servers, environments and if needed i can walk up to
> > the server, plug a USB drive in and either do backups or transfer
> > large amounts of data to my servers.  I have a full rack available to
> > me and i agree that if i was looking to expand, then the cost of
> > hardware will be more than a new instance in the cloud.
>
> > Looking at the figures starting out fresh, the TCO is much higher with
> > the typical data centre infrastructure on a hardware level and
> > possible hardware maintenance level but the ongoing costs of a cloud
> > seems to be just as high or higher than traditional data center
> > services for running systems.
>
> > Yes cloud scaling is nice but when then ongoing costs of basic
> > infrastructure ends up  being more what would be the compelling
> > argument to move to a cloud?
>
> > Steve
>
> > On Sep 8, 11:43 am, Chong <kck...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I have an ex colleague that work projects uses EC2... how do you arrive at
> >> 450-500 per instance excluding data?
>
> >> With my discussions with him and a few others, it is very hard to estimate
> >> your actual usage till you get on it.
>
> >> For me the potential lies in
>
> >>    - Ability to exist beyond different regions (the likely hood of all the
> >>    datacenters going down in all the region is very very small)
> >>    - scalable (you can switch the instance type, and I also believe there 
> >> is
> >>    the ability to create/increase capacity via code/conditions)
> >>    - Not needing to worry about hardware
>
> >> So for my understand so far, for you to get maximum benefit from EC2 is to
> >> architect the app/site  whereby it can exists between different "regions" ,
> >> know how to interface with EC2 to scale when needed... not needing to worry
> >> about hardware is common with any hosting provider, cloud or non cloud.
>
> >> Besides the fact that it is cheaper, due to scale of economics.
>
> >> Just my uneducated 2 cents :)
>
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