Steve Take a look at Rackspace cloud options. I've been looking at them and chatting with Phil and they are also really good value for money and they don't loose your data like Amazon do upon restart.
http://www.rackspace.com/cloud/ Paul. On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Steve Onnis <st...@cfcentral.com.au> wrote: > Yes paying by the hour is great but when you are using them as > production instances which need to be up 24/7 then the paying by the > hour doesn't really come into it. > > On Sep 8, 3:35 pm, Blair McKenzie <shi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > As far as I can tell there are three main advantages of "cloud" > > infrastructure, and others have already mentioned most of them: > > 1) you don't have to manage your own hardware > > 2) pay by the hour - good for development, and ties into #3 > > 3) you can bring up new instances effectively instantly - both adding > more > > servers to handle load, and removing unused instances to reduce cost > > > > If you don't need for any of those, then you probably shouldn't go with > EC2. > > > > Blair > > > > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Steve Onnis <st...@cfcentral.com.au> > wrote: > > > my disaster plan is an open ended ticket to mexico! :) kidding > > > > > bi-daily backups etc.... > > > > > The thing is even with all those backup plans it just adds more to the > > > costs of running in a cloud. > > > > > On Sep 8, 12:50 pm, Barry Beattie <barry.beat...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Steve: > > > > > > what's the Data Center's/your's disaster recovery plan?** > > > > > > How critical is it for you to deliver, say, 99.5% (or whatever in > your > > > > SLA) uptime to your customers? > > > > > > no criticism, not having a go, just curious if these are factors to > > > > consider (what you've got Vs what EC2 can do for you). > > > > > > me: no affil/bias either way. > > > > > > B > > > > > > ** IIRC, there were a couple of P-o-P's inside the WTC ... until Sept > > > > 11, that is (it's all about managing risk... and sometimes mitigating > > > > all the risk just costs too much to be competitive in business) > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Steve Onnis <st...@cfcentral.com.au > > > > > wrote: > > > > > That's just it though. > > > > > > > I own all of my hardware outright, so the only costs at the moment > for > > > > > us is the data centre costs which current is a little over 2k a > month > > > > > and includes 100 Gb of data. I have full control of security, > > > > > firewalls, the servers, environments and if needed i can walk up to > > > > > the server, plug a USB drive in and either do backups or transfer > > > > > large amounts of data to my servers. I have a full rack available > to > > > > > me and i agree that if i was looking to expand, then the cost of > > > > > hardware will be more than a new instance in the cloud. > > > > > > > Looking at the figures starting out fresh, the TCO is much higher > with > > > > > the typical data centre infrastructure on a hardware level and > > > > > possible hardware maintenance level but the ongoing costs of a > cloud > > > > > seems to be just as high or higher than traditional data center > > > > > services for running systems. > > > > > > > Yes cloud scaling is nice but when then ongoing costs of basic > > > > > infrastructure ends up being more what would be the compelling > > > > > argument to move to a cloud? > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > On Sep 8, 11:43 am, Chong <kck...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> I have an ex colleague that work projects uses EC2... how do you > > > arrive at > > > > >> 450-500 per instance excluding data? > > > > > > >> With my discussions with him and a few others, it is very hard to > > > estimate > > > > >> your actual usage till you get on it. > > > > > > >> For me the potential lies in > > > > > > >> - Ability to exist beyond different regions (the likely hood of > all > > > the > > > > >> datacenters going down in all the region is very very small) > > > > >> - scalable (you can switch the instance type, and I also > believe > > > there is > > > > >> the ability to create/increase capacity via code/conditions) > > > > >> - Not needing to worry about hardware > > > > > > >> So for my understand so far, for you to get maximum benefit from > EC2 > > > is to > > > > >> architect the app/site whereby it can exists between different > > > "regions" , > > > > >> know how to interface with EC2 to scale when needed... not needing > to > > > worry > > > > >> about hardware is common with any hosting provider, cloud or non > > > cloud. > > > > > > >> Besides the fact that it is cheaper, due to scale of economics. > > > > > > >> Just my uneducated 2 cents :) > > > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "cfaussie" group. > > > > > To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > > > groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "cfaussie" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "cfaussie" group. > To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. > > -- Paul Kukiel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. 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