Hi Adam,

To play with dictionary attacks, try www.accessdiver.com - Its quite handy
with a range of functionality and is very easy to drop in complete new
dictionary lists, as well as its default dictionary is quite effective.

Generally if I'm securing these sort of details I maintain a 'IP failure'
list. I simply record the remote ID, and log the number of failures. After 3
login failures, I generate and email/sms depending on the app to the
administrator, and add the IP to an autodump list. (Your IP address has been
blocked due to multiple failures, please contact <email> to have your a$$
kicked.

Depending on the level of the application, you can have your network guys
call your DB of blocked IP's to drop them at the router level, or do some
other niftyness.

Keep in mind, this isn't absolute. Dictionary attacks are bloody difficult
to prevent. Using script kiddy utils like access diver, or custom scripting
you can rewrite your HTTP headers for the request, or rotate through
anonymous proxies. www.astalavista.com is a nice starting point when looking
for lists of anonymous proxy servers. On secured apps I typically just add
all the IP's to the filters permanently.

you also generally want to add a timer of some sort to clear proxy servers
or ip's in general.

With dictionary attacks, you'll typically find that you get a VERY large
number of attacks in a short time span. Generally even if you just throw a
half hour delay every 3 or 4 attempts and check your logs every couple of
days, your going to be able to stop dictionary attacks in there tracks.

The other security paranoid option against Dictionary attacks is to just
stop authentication if the failures count is greater then 50, and notify an
admin who can check the logs and reenable auth if its a false alarm, or take
appropriate action if its a genuine attempt.


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From: "Adam Chapman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 2:38 PM
Subject: [cfaussie] Dictionary attacks


> Hey Everyone..
>
> At the hack-proofing CFMX session at MXDU, Spike
> Mentioned a 'dictionary attack' or something similar
> Where someone will pound your cf templates with lots-o
> Username/password combos..
>
> What are some of the methods peoples use to try and
> Safeguard against this kind of thing..?
>
> Regards,
> Adam Chapman
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