In the release notes for CF 6.1 it says 

Verity is not supported on RedHat Linux

Does anybody have any more info on this or a work around?

Barry

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From: Beattie, Barry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> it basically embeds values into the url to resume state 

you're talking about cookie "munging"? really messy...
http://www.dotnetjohn.com/articles/articleid32.aspx
and even:
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/03/31/1048962686185.html

but standard ASP sessions work on passing a unique number (well 2 numbers:
ASPmachineNumber=GUIDuserNumber) in the CGI "HTTP_COOKIE" so it can track it
on the server. 

HTTP_COOKIE: ASPSESSIONIDGGQQQKKK=AILHEDHDEAAFLMCKHLEJAJPP 

This seems VERY similar to the JsessionID number in CFMX and seems to work
the same way. the number is passed backwards and forwards so that's how the
state is "maintained".

any help?
cheers
barry.b




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Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2003 2:40 PM
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Look at it this way

The web by nature is stateless, so you cant actually maintain state, you can
only resume state, which is what a session does.  If you have a session
linked to a CFID and a CFTOKEN value and those values change, then you will
loose your session.

ASP claims to have a cookieless state managment feature.  you can read about
it here http://www.microsoft.com/mspress/developer/feature/080702.asp

Basically from what I have read, it basically embeds values into the url to
resume state when the site is hit again.

in the end you need something to let the server know who the user is.

Steve

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Brian
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You don't need to maintain connection if its just a CF site.  You can browse
it like any normal site.  You need to maintain state for applications like
login site and shopping carts.  Maybe this is what he is referring to.

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Thanks,

I am starting to feel a bit more confident now, however the part where
you say "I think" sort of leaves me still hanging ;-))



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Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2003 2:22 PM
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I think your right.  With no session or cookie how could the application
know who you are next time you request a page.  HTTP is a connectionless
protocol thus the browser needs to identify itself via cookie or CFID
when
it requests the next page.

Brian Knott

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Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2003 2:12 PM
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I almost feel silly asking this...
But I have to...

This is how I think it all works (but I could be wrong and my ASP
colleague could be right)...

To maintain a session the client either needs to accept a cookie or the
CFID and CFTOKEN need to be passed by the url, otherwise you can't
maintain state..
Is this correct?

My colleague thinks that you can maintain state without a cookie or
passing the CFID and CFTOKEN, is he right?
If so, I will shoot myself...

Taco

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