"> http://wp.netscape.com/home/demo/1.1b1/pushpull.html

I got a "Page Not Found" error on the above URL."

That URL still works for me? hmm... 
If the link I sent still doesn't work, just do a search for 'server-push' in google 
and I'm sure you'll find what I'm talking about.

(http://www.google.com.au/search?q=server+push&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&meta=)


"If you want to create such a thing in CF just use <CFFLUSH> and keep 
constantly looping."

using CFFLUSH in this way is a hack of 'client pull' - not 'server push' - and the 
effect would be very different.  The idea is the browser downloads some content (eg. 
an image) and is told by the server not to close that connection.  Then when that 
content changes, the server pushes out the new one, WITHOUT any client side refresh or 
javascript etc.  In your case here you would probably be pushing the entire HTML 
content when the server updates.


I am pretty sure you can't do this elegantly (if at all) in ColdFusion - the only 
implimentations I have tried myself were in Perl, using a similar method as CFSCHEDULE 
in a Unix CRON job.


As I understand it, it used to be more popular, but it IS a standard thing to do.  
(eg. in most circumstances it's just easier to set a refresh header, or a meta refresh 
tag. 


- James

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Menzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 8:45 AM
To: CFAussie Mailing List
Subject: [cfaussie] RE: Client refresh triggered by Server...


> http://wp.netscape.com/home/demo/1.1b1/pushpull.html

I got a "Page Not Found" error on the above URL.


In any case, you want to use a "portable" mechanism to get updates from a 
server (so if this is Netscape/Browser specific - it isn't portable).

Many servers just don't stop streaming data (evidenced by a progress bar 
that always remains half full and a top right icon spinning away 
continuously).

These types of pages are very easy to create in PHP.

If you want to create such a thing in CF just use <CFFLUSH> and keep 
constantly looping.  As long as data is streaming then you wont get a 
timeout.  However, this is not much good for "tidy" HTML pages where you 
want to go and update certain portions of the page.  In this case, you 
would need one of the mechanisms described using a hidden IFRAME or FRAME 
to get your "streaming" data, decode it, and then deliver it via 
Javascript to the right portions of your page. 

The other (better?) option is to use XMLHTTP from Javascript.  Then set up 
a timer to regularly do a call to the server and get back an XML/HTML 
packet that you then interpret and deliver.

We are currently using the above technique for a full windowing system 
based in DHTML and it works very reliably.

For an example of how this works (and a cross-browser class for XMLHTTP) 
check out the XLoadTree at http://webfx.eae.net

And - in just checking to ensure WebFX is currently available I have 
discovered they have their own "Windows in HTML" project up and running. 
I'll have to check that out.


Gary Menzel
Web Development Manager
IT Operations Brisbane -+- ABN AMRO Morgans Limited
Level 29, 123 Eagle Street BRISBANE QLD 4000
PH: 07 333 44 828  FX:  07 3834 0828


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