who measures? peers.

but those that thump their chest saying that they're the greatist in
(whatever) better bloody get off their backsides and prove it. Otherwise
it's marketing speil and hollow promises.

Compare that to someone like Darren Tracey. AFAIK he hasn't said he or Ben
are going. but everyone who are involved in CFUG in Bris knows the hard
work and comittment that he, his workmates and his employer has in aiding
the developer community, and I (and others) are grateful.

Yes, you don't have to be a big player to have an effect. but you do need
credability...

just 2c worth
barry.b



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