I'm over it, you'll continue to push the point until you're satisfied 
you've won. That's the thing with you, you keep going on and on and on, 
and never know when to shut the [profane word] up. The amount of crap that 
used to come my way because you shared the same work domain as me, would 
blow your mind and others. You seem to never get along with "people" on 
lists, if its not this one, it's others (ie Shado list...) point is your 
never [profane happy] until you "come up" with the solution, like you've 
just pioneered something significant that we can all rest now, knowing 
Taco was our man. 

Come to think of it, I've not yet heard you once say a good thing about 
someone else's code. If you didn't write it, its was [profane word], pure 
and simple that's your level of arrogance.

> I'm a newbie to OO too, although I understood many of the concepts 
before I
> could give it the fancy name Inheritance, encapsulation, or polymorphism 
-
> you don't need to know all those words to know OO.. So what? I hate it 
when
> people are on the list throwing all these fancy words that they know 
most of
> the people don't understand anyway, makes 'm look cool, and we are to 
help
> are we?

That paragraph alone illustrates the cretin (new word for ya, made it up 
special like) you are..... Fancy words....  *sigh*... Once again, you're 
attacking people on the list? (well basically anyone whos' communicated 
via OOP terminology that is...sorry, am did that word confuse you 
aswell?...heh...) That paragraph also shows the contempt you have for 
people on this list who discuss anything above your grasp, instead of 
taking time to look them up maybe? or even readup on OOP some more? If 
someone doesn't get what "Encapsulation" means in terms of CFMX, ask? 
....I'd respect someone more for asking a "newbie" question like that, 
more then someone who assumes they understand it. I've asked it a few 
times, even though i grasped it, but i'd wanted to make sure i 
infact...grasp it.. your ego prevents you from doing such, thus you make 
comments like the one above. Not saying i'm better then you..nah [profane 
word] i am...

Scott.
(I'm sure everyone's over reading this [ expletive beep], but you'll want 
the last word - as usual, so be my guest).





[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 06/10/2004 02:20:33 PM:

> > I'll be blunt,
> 
> Well if we are going to be blunt..
> 
> > You need to chill out more.
> 
> I don't think you can meet anyone that chills out more than I do.. But 
you
> can't see that in an email ;-))
> 
> > The problem with this whole topic has been, you didn't get an 
> > immediate 
> > answer from a problem that you liked, not only that the 
> > proposed method of 
> > attack you have outlined in many ways just doesn't hold 
> > water, in that its 
> > not a typical every day solution that  you would face in OOP 
> > (before you 
> > start counter-arguments on CFMX and OOP read on).
> 
> See, making assumptions and doing the twisting again, where exactly did 
I
> say I was worried about not getting an answer?
> What I was worried about was you fooling around..
> 
> Tell me exactly which part of my method of attack does not hold water? I
> found a solution to super.init( argumentsCollection = arguments ) a 
solution
> that no one since the last time I started this thread has been able to
> solve. Yeah, uh, well I do believe this is what the whole thread has 
been
> about (I should now because I started it), but that went right by you 
huh
> Scott? You didn't get it huh?
> 
> > Then after all this, you decide to then go an make a smart 
> > ass comment 
> > about not only myself and others who are on this list that "ramble on 
> > about OO" and yet don't understand it. You gotta learn to pick your 
> > battles and when to walk away, as you come off too aggressive 
> > and looking 
> > like an idiot.
> 
> Well the word everyone was actually YOU, but I didn't want to make you 
feel
> to bad.. And nobody else took offense by it, so.. Now who's the [profane
> word] [profane word] and [profane word]..
> 
> > At anyrate, dislike me or not, really doesn't make a 
> > difference to me, but 
> > don't assume to understand my skills or skillset just because 
> > i found your 
> > personal dilemma frustrating. The reason i found it 
> > frustrating as it goes 
> > against everything I have *actually* learned about OOP. I 
> > don't pretend to 
> > assume that i'm the god of OOP, hell i'm still learning and 
> > unlike you, 
> > i'm open to new concepts put forth. I've not had the X number 
> > of years of 
> > OOP background as some people on this list (ie Sean, Gary etc).
> 
> It's a problem, in real life you are actually not hat bad, when you 
don't
> talk.
> Assuming, twisting and pulling other people in who I did not even 
mention,
> yeah go on.. 
> You touched my skillset before I touched yours..
> 
> > I like the word Monkey, because its a funny term (whether you 
> > or others 
> > agree is another topic) and its a term commonly used when i 
> > was at TQ, and 
> > habits die hard. When I call someone a Code Monkey it means, 
> > you aren't a 
> > moron, quite the opposite your at a level of "coding" 
> > respect. If i call 
> > you a newbie, then you can take issue with it...thats the 
> > whole "Monkey" 
> > definition/glossary of terms.
> 
> I like how you like the word monkey, because you are a monkey..
> Where did the CodeMonkey come into this conversation, creating some
> composition are we, or inheritance Scott "is a"?
> 
> > While CFMX is a totally different discipline and maybe thats 
> > the biggest 
> > struggle most of us face, in that making CFMX into an OOP 
> > ruleset when in 
> > fact it doesn't have to be, yet we can't quite seem to let 
> > that go... its 
> > only taken me the last couple of months, to realise that 
> > making CFMX into 
> > this Strict Coding Language is a waste of time, as it breaks a lot of 
> > rules and doesn't adhere to ones i like. I'm still learning 
> > JAVA & C#, so 
> > in many ways I'm still a newbie to OOP and i'll happilly admit that.
> 
> I never slag CFMX of never, so where did that come from?
> I'm a newbie to OO too, although I understood many of the concepts 
before I
> could give it the fancy name Inheritance, encapsulation, or polymorphism 
-
> you don't need to know all those words to know OO.. So what? I hate it 
when
> people are on the list throwing all these fancy words that they know 
most of
> the people don't understand anyway, makes 'm look cool, and we are to 
help
> are we?
> 
> > At anyrate, point is you come off too aggressive and depsite the list 
> > being a supposed "help for the CFMXer downunder" its not here 
> > waiting for 
> > "Taco's problem of the day", we all have jobs/priorities of 
> > our own, and 
> > those of us who do post on here to *try* and help others, 
> > whether we are 
> > right/wrong we still donate our time and energy in helping..aswell as 
> > prooving to ourselves concepts we have floating around in our 
> > noggins is 
> > infact right. Its good to problem solve, but its only as good as the 
> > person who has the problem, in that if you start 
> > counter-acting peoples 
> > intentions with a negative attitude, your gonna find yourself 
> > caught in a 
> > thread like this one.
> 
> Yes, so what, I don't see what it has got to do with anything, is this 
from
> another post again or something? The only person I counteract is you, I 
have
> to otherwise my problem would turn into a giant disaster, ooh sjeesh it 
just
> did (guess I did not counteract you to good, wait it's ignoring that I
> should do when it comes to you, forgot)..
> I don't expect anyone to answer, and I don't get upset if no one 
answers, I
> might throw the question in the list again, or reformat the question and
> throw it in again, or even months later throw it in again, but I don't 
get
> pissed off, I don't understand where all this is coming from? Yeah you 
piss
> me off, but that's about it.
> 
> > Nothing personal, but in future, i'll just butt out of your 
> > threads, as 
> > its quite clear we both don't get along CFMX wise.
> 
> Scott, that's is the most sensible thing you ever said, to be honest, I 
am
> not going to miss you one bit, I never found any help in your posts 
anyway,
> same thing when you talk (I'm not the only one who thinks that either 
;-)..
> 
> > Scott Out.
> > 
> > P,S 
> > Everytime you post a negative flamewar on a list, Taco Kills a 
> > monkey. Think 
> > on that.
> > 
> > P.S.S
> > Everytime I post on here, thats less $$ in my pocket (even 
> > now, this email 
> > cost me $0.15), I'm saying people owe me for it, I'm saying be 
> > mindful in 
> > contract roles, time is money and if I or others take time to 
> > help others 
> > via this list, be aware they are basically paying for the 
> > right to help 
> > you/others.
> > just doing what scott is good at ;-))
> 
> And you still spend 15 minutes on writing this post??
> 
> I'm glad you wanted to continue this flamewar, at least now I was able 
to
> say what I wanted to say.
> 
> Well I have said all I could say, if you want to take this any further, 
why
> not do it privately?
> 
> 
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