I agree Scott with every thing you said for the exact opposite reasons. I find that being a committed CFer makes me more valuable, its a smaller pond that the ASP / .NET pool of jobs and it less quantity but more quality.
A career path is not CF / ASP or any other language I regard my self as a Software Engineer and as such more than 70% of my week is taken up with Analysis Design and Testing only 30% is actual coding and then the syntax of that code is 10% of that. The way I see it is that 97% or my skills are transferable. Moving to a new technology will be A) Understand the underlining frameworks and patterns B) learning the syntax. I was only trying to reflect the fact that as an outsider coming from what most people consider one of the busiest cities in the world I am finding that CF work is if anything easy to secure. I am also being fairly fussy about my rate, I don't entertain sub $40/hr as I know the firm using me will be making an unfair profit on my work and if rate is that much a problem then I walk away. BTW I haven't had to though, if sold currently people understand. Don't get me wrong, I was just trying to give you guys a reflection on your market as an outsider. Gary Crouch. On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:15:01 +1100, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gary, > > First of all I am in a fulltime job, secondly I am well aware that the jobs > aren't just listed in one place. However, my point is that lets say my son > decides to follow in my foot steps and wants to learn coldfusion and he > looks at the job market to see what is around, now as the jobs are not > listed then he says how can I earn any money to survive, I tell him that > there are jobs out there but I can't prove that they are! > > So instead of learning coldfusion as the job market is very slim, he moves > into java or .Net as this is where all the jobs are. > > That's my point and not where to find them!! > > When I was looking for work in the I.T. sector as a developer of coldfusion > I looked at the market and registered with every agency here in Victoria. I > then posted into cfjobs and cfaussie looking for work and I was shocked to > see that the amount of job offers that came back was very poor, and its what > you see when your really are looking that leaves the bad taste in your > mouth. > > Now if the jobs are out there then how about they be advertised for maximum > exposure instead of ringing one or two developers who can't take the work? > Let it go out and penetrate the rest of the coldfusion community, there are > many developers out there that I know that no longer do CF work and will not > return to it, no matter what you say to them about how good CF is, their > response will be that the market is not good enough to have a career in. > > Again the jobs are circulating in a small circle to developers that are > already developing in CF, which makes it harder for new blood to come along > and pick up CF (and that is were the future will be, in the new blood) and > run a career with it, and this is why I will stand by and say that CF will > not survive unless the attitude of Macromedia changes and starts pushing the > technology in Australia. Thus creating jobs that will make sure that the > language will survive, and creating a path that others can safely say yes > that technology has a future and I can make a career path out of it. > > The point I am making is not whether I can keep developing in CF, but if the > work grows to include the option of people wanting to learn the product. > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aussie Macromedia Developers: http://lists.daemon.com.au/ > --- You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [email protected] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aussie Macromedia Developers: http://lists.daemon.com.au/
