> I'd be interested to hear a commercial business argument in favor of

Rightly or wrongly, I think a lot of developers coming from other languages
take one look @ CF and go "nah: toy", and don't look any further.  And one
of the symptoms of this toyishness is going to be when they see stuff like: 

<cfif i GTE j>

instead of:

if (i >= j)

CF is just plain ugly, and the code looks toyish.

If CF didn't have that (superficial) effect on people, they might give it
more time, and give it a go, and find out that it *is* a "real" language,
and get into it.

It's the people at the bottom of the food chain that make the community,
and give a product impetus.  More people using something means it's easier
to hire (and replace) people to do it, and simply just hearing about
something more often makes a product seem more appealing, if only due to
familiarity.

I think in a lot of situations an IT Manager might go "Oooh! Bells!
Whistles!  I'll have one of those!", but more often they'll grab demo copy
of it, chuck it to the developers, and ask what they think.  And if they
all just snort and go back to hacking PHP, the manager ain't gonna buy it.

> getting Macromedia to spend lots of time and effort on bringing
> CFSCRIPT up to ECMAScript compliance as opposed to spending that time
> and effort on adding new functionality to ColdFusion. That's a serious
> question...

I have to say that it would be far more important to me to cfscript-ify
more CFML tags than ECMA compliance on operators, to be honest.

I think CF is trying to move on from positioning itself as "a tool for web
monkeys to pick up more easily", and more into "serious language" (why
would they bother with CFCs otherwise... 95% of CF developers hav no need
for them), and to be a more serious contentder, you've got to make an
effort to appeal to more serious developers.


But, really, I'm always just talking personal preference, and don't think
in terms of "business cases"; I think in terms of "what would make my life
easier, and make me happy".  Completely selfish :-/

Adam

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